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{{userbox|aqua|gainsboro|36%|[[Uno Live Database|MuseWiki ULD]] has <big>9/25</big> performances of this song.<br><small>[[Do We Need This/Missing (live)|This is a list of missing performances.]]</small>}}
{{Livebox
| Name = Do We Need This
| Tours = ''Showbiz'' <small>(24)</small><br>''Pre-Showbiz'' <small>(1)</small>
| First = [[Exeter Cavern Club 1997-03 (gig) | 31st March 1997]]
| Latest = [[Leicester Princess Charlotte 2000 (gig) | 24th February 2000]]
| Pro-shots = '''1999:'''<br>[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x502ale_muse-do-we-need-this-paris-mcm-cafe-11-10-1999_music Paris] (11/10/1999)
| Audio = {{ScrollBox|'''2000:'''<br>[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x50nty8_muse-do-we-need-this-manchester-academy-02-21-2000_music Manchester] (02/21/2000)<br>[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5wsvwc Rouen] (01/08/2000)<br>[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x50jr8p_muse-do-we-need-this-brussels-botanique-01-07-2000_music Brussels] (01/07/2000)<br>[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x502bt1_muse-do-we-need-this-amsterdam-paradiso-01-06-2000_music Amsterdam] (01/06/2000)<br>'''1999:'''<br>[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4wi8dm_muse-do-we-need-this-paris-new-morning-07-12-1999_music Paris] (07/12/1999)<br>[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4w7uqp_muse-do-we-need-this-portsmouth-pyramids-centre-05-17-1999_music Portsmouth] (05/17/1999)<br>[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4w6gwa_muse-do-we-need-this-london-astoria-04-10-1999_music London] (04/10/1999)}}
| GigNumber = 25
| UnoLiveDatabase = 36% (missing 16/25 performances)
}}
This page contains a list of all known performances of [[Do We Need This (song) | Do We Need This]].
This page contains a list of all known performances of [[Do We Need This (song) | Do We Need This]].


== Showbiz era ==
== Analysis and Explanation ==
#[[Manchester Academy 2000 (gig) | February 21, 2000 - Manchester Academy]] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlglk5hdOW4&t=59m03s Listen here])
Do We Need This is one of the most played b-sides from the Showbiz era, believed to have been performed over fifty times live over the course of 1997 to 2000. Possibly originating in late 1996, the earliest setlist from 1997 includes this song. Despite this, the next known appearance of Do We Need This took place in April 1999. It is very likely that Do We Need This was done somewhat often during 1997 and 1998, however as of right now, it is unknown exactly how often or when it was performed during this time period.
#[[Rouen Exo 7 2000 (gig) | January 8, 2000 - Exo 7]]
 
#[[Saint-Josse-ten-Noode Botanique 2000 (gig) | January 7, 2000 - Le Botanique]]
Do We Need This was performed live very often in 1999. As a rough estimate, including gigs where the song was believed to have been performed, Do We Need This was performed over forty times live in 1999 alone, of which we know of 17 performances from 1999. This is largely due to the band's appreciation of the song, with Matt once citing it as the band's best song. By August 1999, however, the band were beginning to sour on the song, and after August 1999 it was believed to have been performed only six times. There is always the possibility that the song was performed more often during this time period, but there are no setlists available to back up this claim.
#[[Amsterdam Paradiso 2000 (gig) | January 6, 2000 - Paradiso]] ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=039f6f5i65Y&t=54m44s Listen here])
 
#[[Paris MCM Café 1999 (gig) | November 10, 1999 - MCM Café]] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyozGGBSj5E Watch here])
Why the song was done so often comes down to the fact that the band had high hopes for the song, and that in 1999 the band hadn't developed a large number of songs to perform live and thus were stuck using b-sides to perform live. Unlike most b-sides there is one pro shot available of Do We Need This, the only in existence. Though it has not been performed since 2000, the band apparently have not given up on performing the song as it was a setlist option for the [[London Shepherds Bush_Empire 2017 (gig)|2017 Shepherds Bush Empire]] show.
#[[London Borderline 1999 (gig) | August 18, 1999 - The Borderline]]
#[[Chicago Elbo Room 1999 (gig) | August 6, 1999 - Elbo Room]]
#[[Liverpool Lomax 1999 (gig) | July 20, 1999 - Lomax]]
#[[Exeter Cavern Club 1999-07 (gig) | July 19, 1999 - Cavern Club]]
#[[Paris New Morning 1999 (gig) | July 12, 1999 - New Morning]]
#[[London 100 Club 1999 (gig) | July 8, 1999 - 100 Club]]
#[[London Barfly 1999 (gig) | May 18, 1999 - Barfly]]
#[[Portsmouth Pyramids Centre 1999 - 17th (gig) | May 17, 1999 - Portsmouth Pyramids Centre]]
#[[London Astoria 1999-04 (gig) | April 10, 1999 - London Astoria]]


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''Please note that between [[Template:Gigs/1994|1994]] and [[Template:Gigs/2004|2004]] there are several gigs with unknown setlists, with years prior to 2000 having less than half of the setlists known.''
== Showbiz era ==
=== 2000 ===
{| class="gigtable sortable wikitable"
! # || Date || Venue || Location || Link
|-
| 5 || 2000-02-24 || [[Leicester Princess Charlotte 2000 (gig) | The Princess Charlotte]] || Leicester, UK ||
|-
| 4 || 2000-02-21 || [[Manchester Academy 2000 (gig) | Manchester Academy]] || Manchester, UK || [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x50nty8_muse-do-we-need-this-manchester-academy-02-21-2000_music Listen here] {{Backup}}
|-
| 3 || 2000-01-08 || [[Rouen Exo 7 2000 (gig) | Exo 7]] || Rouen, France || [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5wsvwc Listen here]
|-
| 2 || 2000-01-07 || [[Saint-Josse-ten-Noode Botanique 2000 (gig) | Le Botanique]] || Saint-Josse-ten-Noode, Belgium || [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x50jr8p_muse-do-we-need-this-brussels-botanique-01-07-2000_music Listen here] {{Backup}}
|-
| 1 || 2000-01-06 || [[Amsterdam Paradiso 2000 (gig) | Paradiso]] || Amsterdam, Netherlands || [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x502bt1_muse-do-we-need-this-amsterdam-paradiso-01-06-2000_music Listen here] {{Backup}}
|}


=== 1999 ===
''Note: Due to years prior to 2000 having many incomplete setlists, performances will not be numbered.''
{| class="gigtable sortable wikitable"
! Date || Venue || Location || Link
|-
| 1999-11-10 || [[Paris MCM Café 1999 (gig) | MCM Café]] (Les Inrockuptibles) || Paris, France || [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x502ale_muse-do-we-need-this-paris-mcm-cafe-11-10-1999_music Watch here] {{Backup}}
|-
| 1999-08-18 || [[London Borderline 1999 (gig) | The Borderline]] || London, UK ||
|-
| 1999-08-04 || [[Chicago Elbo Room 1999 (gig) | Elbo Room]] || Chicago, IL, USA ||
|-
| 1999-07-23 || [[Oxford Zodiac 1999 (gig) | Zodiac]] || Oxford, UK ||
|-
| 1999-07-20 || [[Liverpool Lomax 1999 (gig) | Lomax]] || Liverpool, UK ||
|-
| 1999-07-19 || [[Exeter Cavern Club 1999-07 (gig) | Cavern Club]] || Exeter, UK ||
|-
| 1999-07-12 || [[Paris New Morning 1999 (gig) | New Morning]] || Paris, France || [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4wi8dm_muse-do-we-need-this-paris-new-morning-07-12-1999_music Listen here] {{Backup}}
|-
| 1999-07-08 || [[London 100 Club 1999 (gig) | 100 Club]] || London, UK ||
|-
| 1999-06-23 || [[Exeter Cavern Club 1999-06 (gig) | Cavern Club]] || Exeter, UK ||
|-
| 1999-06-21 || [[Wolverhampton Varsity 1999 (gig) | Varsity]] || Wolverhampton, UK ||
|-
| 1999-06-19 || [[Manchester Roadhouse 1999-06 (gig) | Roadhouse]] || Manchester, UK ||
|-
| 1999-06-18 || [[Southampton Joiners Arms 1999 (gig) | Joiners Arms]] || Southampton, UK ||
|-
| 1999-05-29 || [[Glasgow Garage 1999 (gig) | The Garage]] (supporting Feeder) || Glasgow, UK ||
|-
| 1999-05-27 || [[Newcastle upon Tyne Riverside 1999 (gig) | The Riverside]] (supporting Feeder) || Newcastle upon Tyne, UK ||
|-
| 1999-05-25 || [[Cardiff Coal Exchange 1999 (gig) | Coal Exchange]] (supporting Feeder) || Cardiff, UK
|-
| 1999-05-18 || [[London Barfly 1999 (gig) | Barfly]] (Radio 1 Evening Session Tour) || London, UK ||
|-
| 1999-05-17 || [[Portsmouth Pyramids Centre 1999 - 17th (gig) | Portsmouth Pyramids Centre]] (Radio 1 Evening Session tour) || Portsmouth, UK || [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4w7uqp_muse-do-we-need-this-portsmouth-pyramids-centre-05-17-1999_music Listen here] {{Backup}}
|-
| 1999-04-10 || [[London Astoria 1999-04 (gig) | London Astoria]] (supporting [[Gene]]) || London, UK || [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4w6gwa_muse-do-we-need-this-london-astoria-04-10-1999_music Listen here] {{Backup}}
|-
| 1999-??-?? || [[Fortress Studios 1999 (gig) | Fortress Studios]] || London, UK || Included on Origin of Muse
|}


{{LiveNav2
== Pre-Showbiz era ==
| Previous = [[Recess (song) | Recess]]<br>[[Paris Bataclan 2000 (gig) | January 18 2000]]
=== 1997 ===
| Current = Do We Need This<br>[[Manchester Academy 2000 (gig) | February 21 2000]]
{| class="gigtable sortable wikitable"
| Next = [[Ashamed (song) | Ashamed]]<br>[[London Astoria 2000 - 6th (gig) | June 6th 2000]]
! # || Date || Venue || Location || Link
}}
|-
| 1 || 1997-03-31 || [[Exeter Cavern Club 1997-03 (gig) | Cavern Club]] || Exeter, UK ||
|}


== See also ==
{{LiveShowbiz}}


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[[Category:Uno Live Database]]

Latest revision as of 16:02, 11 December 2019

36% MuseWiki ULD has 9/25 performances of this song.
This is a list of missing performances.
Live information
Name Do We Need This
Tours Showbiz (24)
Pre-Showbiz (1)
First performance 31st March 1997
Latest performance 24th February 2000
Pro-shots 1999:
Paris (11/10/1999)
Audience footage None
Audio recordings
2000:
Manchester (02/21/2000)
Rouen (01/08/2000)
Brussels (01/07/2000)
Amsterdam (01/06/2000)
1999:
Paris (07/12/1999)
Portsmouth (05/17/1999)
London (04/10/1999)
# of performances 25
Uno Live Database 36% (missing 16/25 performances)




This page contains a list of all known performances of Do We Need This.

Analysis and Explanation

Do We Need This is one of the most played b-sides from the Showbiz era, believed to have been performed over fifty times live over the course of 1997 to 2000. Possibly originating in late 1996, the earliest setlist from 1997 includes this song. Despite this, the next known appearance of Do We Need This took place in April 1999. It is very likely that Do We Need This was done somewhat often during 1997 and 1998, however as of right now, it is unknown exactly how often or when it was performed during this time period.

Do We Need This was performed live very often in 1999. As a rough estimate, including gigs where the song was believed to have been performed, Do We Need This was performed over forty times live in 1999 alone, of which we know of 17 performances from 1999. This is largely due to the band's appreciation of the song, with Matt once citing it as the band's best song. By August 1999, however, the band were beginning to sour on the song, and after August 1999 it was believed to have been performed only six times. There is always the possibility that the song was performed more often during this time period, but there are no setlists available to back up this claim.

Why the song was done so often comes down to the fact that the band had high hopes for the song, and that in 1999 the band hadn't developed a large number of songs to perform live and thus were stuck using b-sides to perform live. Unlike most b-sides there is one pro shot available of Do We Need This, the only in existence. Though it has not been performed since 2000, the band apparently have not given up on performing the song as it was a setlist option for the 2017 Shepherds Bush Empire show.

Please submit dead links/issues here.

Showbiz era

2000

# Date Venue Location Link
5 2000-02-24 The Princess Charlotte Leicester, UK
4 2000-02-21 Manchester Academy Manchester, UK Listen here [B]
3 2000-01-08 Exo 7 Rouen, France Listen here
2 2000-01-07 Le Botanique Saint-Josse-ten-Noode, Belgium Listen here [B]
1 2000-01-06 Paradiso Amsterdam, Netherlands Listen here [B]

1999

Note: Due to years prior to 2000 having many incomplete setlists, performances will not be numbered.

Date Venue Location Link
1999-11-10 MCM Café (Les Inrockuptibles) Paris, France Watch here [B]
1999-08-18 The Borderline London, UK
1999-08-04 Elbo Room Chicago, IL, USA
1999-07-23 Zodiac Oxford, UK
1999-07-20 Lomax Liverpool, UK
1999-07-19 Cavern Club Exeter, UK
1999-07-12 New Morning Paris, France Listen here [B]
1999-07-08 100 Club London, UK
1999-06-23 Cavern Club Exeter, UK
1999-06-21 Varsity Wolverhampton, UK
1999-06-19 Roadhouse Manchester, UK
1999-06-18 Joiners Arms Southampton, UK
1999-05-29 The Garage (supporting Feeder) Glasgow, UK
1999-05-27 The Riverside (supporting Feeder) Newcastle upon Tyne, UK
1999-05-25 Coal Exchange (supporting Feeder) Cardiff, UK
1999-05-18 Barfly (Radio 1 Evening Session Tour) London, UK
1999-05-17 Portsmouth Pyramids Centre (Radio 1 Evening Session tour) Portsmouth, UK Listen here [B]
1999-04-10 London Astoria (supporting Gene) London, UK Listen here [B]
1999-??-?? Fortress Studios London, UK Included on Origin of Muse

Pre-Showbiz era

1997

# Date Venue Location Link
1 1997-03-31 Cavern Club Exeter, UK

See also

This is a table of Showbiz-era live performances.

Note: white indicates performed at 75-100% of known setlists.

Gainsboro indicates performed at 50-75% of known setlists.

Silver indicates performed at 25-50% of known setlists.

Dark gray indicates performed at 0-25% of known setlists.

Black indicates no known performance that year.

Aqua indicates a performance in the current tour and year for which the final amount of performances is unknown.

All years with unknown setlists (1997-2004) are indicated with small font.

Last updated: April 15, 2022.

Song_Title Release '95 '96 '97 '98 '99 '00 '01 '02 '03 '04 '05 '06 '07 '08 '09 '10 '11 '12 '13 '14 '15 '16 '17 '18 '19 '22 '23 #
Sunburn Showbiz 0 0 0 0 44 102 100 31 40 96 11 26 52 4 1 5 0 13 29 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 556
Muscle Museum Showbiz 1 0 2 4 71 104 98 33 42 96 5 17 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 1 1 0 0 0 479
Fillip Showbiz 0 0 1 0 52 79 53 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 185
Falling Down Showbiz 0 0 0 0 38 67 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 115
Cave Showbiz 0 0 3 4 69 93 83 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 16 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 270
Showbiz Showbiz 0 0 0 2 56 101 100 4 3 4 0 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 3 3 0 1 292
Unintended Showbiz 0 0 0 1 20 70 58 0 0 0 0 0 15 0 6 4 0 0 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 191
Uno Showbiz 0 0 0 1 67 74 52 9 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 210
Sober Showbiz 0 0 4 1 24 55 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 86
Spiral Static Showbiz 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
Escape Showbiz 0 0 3 1 16 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 37
Overdue Showbiz 0 0 2 2 24 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 46
Hate This & I'll Love You Showbiz 0 0 2 0 2 7 46 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 57
Agitated Uno 0 5 2 0 16 71 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11 2 7 2 0 1 0 1 0 132
Forced In Uno 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 19 16 0 62 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 106
Twin Cave 0 0 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3
Host Cave 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11 0 0 0 0 2 1 2 0 0 18
Coma Cave 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
Minimum Muscle Museum 0 0 0 0 1 58 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 0 70
Do We Need This Muscle Museum 0 0 1 0 19 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 25
Pink Ego Box Muscle Museum 0 0 2 0 11 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14
Yes Please Sunburn 0 0 0 0 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 1 0 0 2 1 0 0 0 31
Ashamed Sunburn 0 0 1 0 0 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10
Recess Unintended 0 0 0 0 3 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 12
Nishe Unintended 0 0 0 0 1 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 23 93 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 19 0 156

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