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== Gig Chronology ==<br />
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Not a major problem, but the gig feed isn't putting the gigs in chronological order. Not sure if it can be edited but it's a bit misleading and quite annoying :p Cheers. [[User:Nuttyboy|nuttyboy]] 19:41, 2 September 2009 (BST)<br />
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=="We are now @muse rather than @musewire"==<br />
Should we be changing that as well? (On the main page, for example) [[User:7|7]] 23:32, 16 August 2009 (BST)<br />
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==O'RLY==<br />
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"Welcome to the all new muse.mu! We've had a pretty major overhaul and there are lots of new features for you to explore including '''''MuseWiki''''' and Google Maps integration plus commentable news and pics for Muse Members." well, this is going to take some getting used to... --[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 11:16, 13 July 2009 (BST)<br />
:Some of us got used to it a while ago :P Hopefully some of the changed made recently might make a bit for sense in light of the new semi-official status. There's still quite a few issues like discobox colours are messed up. I'm not sure if the css was going to cater for them or whether we need to change the templates or something. I'll be making a "Back to Muse.mu" template for gigs and discography pages in a bit. [[User:۞|Niall]] 11:35, 13 July 2009 (BST)<br />
::sounds good, sounds good. You kept it a secret very well. If you need any help with CSS. I've been known to dabble. --[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 11:39, 13 July 2009 (BST)<br />
:::Yeah sorry it there's any bum pages with bad css, it's quite hard moving from white to black! Definitely going to make a white skin when i have time though, i miss reading black on white. But yeah, this will do for now... tempted to use the background from the current site, it's pretty piss to steal haha --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 12:01, 13 July 2009 (BST)<br />
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==Gigs Feed==<br />
The upcoming gigs feed seems to be broken, I looked at the code and it looked alright. Is it a problem on the muse.mu side? --[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 23:56, 3 June 2009 (BST)<br />
:Hello, your call is important to us<br />
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>ca-ching*<br />
:We seem to be experiencing some technical difficulties at the moment and we are attempting to rectify the problem. In the mean time, we are sorry for any inconvenience.<br />
:[http://lyricwiki.org/Gotye:Thanks_For_Your_Time Thank you for your time].<br />
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:(:P) --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 00:00, 4 June 2009 (BST)<br />
::Feed fail. Not our fault, sorry :( --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 00:20, 4 June 2009 (BST)<br />
:::Yeah...the feed has all the gigs set to be on June 1st, just have to wait until it gets fixed on the .mu end of things [[User:۞|۞]] 00:29, 4 June 2009 (BST)<br />
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==Upcoming Gigs==<br />
While muse are busy recording, d'you think it would be a good idea to put something like 'Muse are busy recording their [[The Resistance (album)|fifth album]], no time for gigs! under the 'upcoming gigs' section of the front page? looks a bit silly bare like that. --[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 15:26, 11 February 2009 (GMT)<br />
:Good idea, added a small note :) [[User:۞|۞]] 01:14, 13 February 2009 (GMT)<br />
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==BT Digital Music Awards==<br />
It's a bit late but should be include button on the main page for voting? [[User:۞|۞]] 19:17, 10 September 2008 (BST)<br />
:Does the award not depend on the site being registered before voting begins? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 18:04, 11 September 2008 (BST)<br />
::Nope it appears you can still nominate any site. Most Muse fans will have most likely voted for MuseLive by now though, I guess. --03:31, 14 September 2008 (BST)<br />
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==Musewiki general improvement==<br />
I had a idea for a way to improve the content of Musewiki overall - that is appealing to members of the forums to contribute material to musewiki. Too many people view it as a static website as opposed to something to be involved in (or at least a view that seemed to be common) - what we could do is appeal to people forums to contribute anything they can to improve the content of articles, for example, scans of set lists where they are absent, typing up articles from magazines, scanning in CDs etc that aren't in the discography, tabs, and generally promoting the site to get more people to contribute and realise this place actually exists (particularly the huge number of new fans who weren't around when this site was launched).<br />
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Wanted to run it by here first and see what others think, and then post a few threads on the official forums and muselive. [[User:۞|۞]] 01:28, 3 September 2008 (BST)<br />
:Sounds good to me, it's hard to get across on teaching poeple to wiki though. It's like a learning curve for everyone! I get loads of emails of people saying "hey, this needs to be changed to that" and i constantly have to reply to telling them they should try doing it. i suppose it's the complexity of it all that scares me, but i'm definitely up for promoting stuff :D --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 10:08, 3 September 2008 (BST)<br />
::Awesome, it would be great to get some new regulars to improve it all before the fifth album comes out and the next wave of new fans comes along. The coding will probably scare some people off but if I make a post I'll tell them to hassle me about it, I don't mind getting stupid questions, and getting across the point that Musewiki can and should be edited by anyone. We could have a sandbox like wikipedia. I'll also write a few easy to understand bits on things like using citations to add to the references article. [[User:۞|۞]] 17:45, 3 September 2008 (BST)<br />
:::You know, MuseWiki could be a lot better (and have a lot more contributors) if it were just more ''fun'', you know? It doesn't have to be all uptight and referenced and stuff. Just '''loosen up'''. -- [[User:7|7]] 00:54, 13 September 2008 (BST)<br />
::::There's plenty of non-serious articles. Like the page about Matt. But for pages about albums, songs, gear and gigs, where people want good information on things, then references and such are very necessary. There's no point in having a lot of contributions if people might as well be making it up as they go along. It's not a matter of being uptight, just practical. --[[User:۞|۞]] 03:31, 14 September 2008 (BST)<br />
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==Live single linkage suggestion==<br />
Is it an idea to put up a link to the corresponding gig on a page of a single which has a live version on it? Like this:<BR><br />
'''DE, BX maxi CD'''<br />
#[[New Born (song)|New Born]]<br />
#[[Map of Your Head (song)|Map of Your Head]]<br />
#[[Piano Thing (song)|Piano Thing]]<br />
#[[Plug in Baby (song)|Plug in Baby]] [[Amsterdam Paradiso 2001 (gig)|(live)]]<br />
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--[[User:BenjiWL|BenjiWL]] 14:03, 18 July 2007 (BST)<br />
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:Sounds reasonable, it's a wiki, so just change it :) / [[User:Time Q|Time Q]] 15:09, 18 July 2007 (BST)<br />
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Request:<br />
A place to veiw all the pictures in the Wiki.- [[User: Debase Masons Grog|Debase Masons Grog]]<br />
That already exists at [[Special:Imagelist]] [[User:BigBlueFish|BigBlueFish]] 16:01, 19 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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Request and action:<br />
You asked for a different logo and a few of us put some up. Nothing has been changed on what the logo will be. I will change the logo to the one i made to see if you guy's think that it is better.<br />
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Action:<br />
FourthMember removed my Hidden Noise for Jimmy Kane. Which is mean. As a note, the noise is real.<br />
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-- I can't hear it (on my version at least) [[User:Jpatrick|Jpatrick]]<br />
-- You couldn't hear a distinctive "Poot" sound, and then a smashing sound at 1:17 on Jimmy Kane?<br />
-- I hear something breaking [[User:Jpatrick|Jpatrick]]<br />
-- See? Un-deletage please.<br />
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==Quotes==<br />
Request: Could someone add a link to the [[Quotes]] page to the front page? [[User:Jpatrick|Jpatrick]]<br />
::I agree, or somewhere where it can be seen. --[[User:Susurr0|Susurr0]] 09:28, 24 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
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==Request==<br />
I don't know how to use Wiki properly lol so: will somebody change "Eerie whispers" on the lyrics of TofDA to "Alien whispers"?<br />
:If the lyrics were that then someone would change it. But its not --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 21:36, 9 January 2007 (GMT)<br />
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Would it be a good idea to link Guitar, bass, etc under the band member's names to the particular page on their instrument?<br />
--[[User:M3cky|M3cky]] 09:44, 11 March 2007 (GMT +8)<br />
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==Linked==<br />
Are you guys aware that Muse has a link to here on their website? Just wondering. [[User:Salty|Salty]] 21:22, 3 August 2006 (BST)<br />
:Aye, knew about it, Tom Kirk is particularly keen on the site, especially due to the reason that he can go to others "Look, im part of the band, look at my page" haha. --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 12:42, 20 October 2006 (BST)<br />
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==Innocent Voices==<br />
On rhapsody.com, it has a compilation album listed called Ethnic Whispers. It says one of the songs listed is called "Innocent Voices", and it says it is by Muse (other sources say so as well). It also has a description of Muse that matches with the Muse we know. I don't know if it's right or not, because the song doesn't sound very much like Muse and it's not on this site anywheres. [[User:Salty|Salty]] 00:26, 28 December 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:It isn't, it just says it's our Muse because the names are exactly the same.-[[User:DMG|DMG]]<br />
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==Main page==<br />
What about a proper main page? I mean, with featured articles, news, "did you know...?", and things like that? -[[User:Susurr0|Susurr0]] 11:21, 24 February 2007 (UTC+1)<br />
:Sounds cool. I'd be willing to help, but only if someone who's better at wiki-ing than me helps to because I'm not really as advanced as others.... [[User:7|7]] 05:17, 17 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
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see: [[User:7 - Project: Main Page]] for ideas<br />
Dom's name isnt under his picture on the home page. and im not aloud to edit the home page,<br />
so if someone else could check into that.<br />
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== Videos ==<br />
Would it be possible to add a link to [[Videography]] from the sidebar? Just think it might make life easier than having to do through [[Discography]].--[[User:Frozenjakalope|Jakalope]] 11:49, 21 March 2007 (GMT)<br />
: I agree. --[[User:Susurr0|Susurr0]] 16:04, 9 April 2007 (UTC+2)<br />
:: What happened to this? It's hard to find it. --[[User:Susurr0|Susurr0]] 09:28, 24 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
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==A few things==<br />
Since it's almost three weeks after April fools, do we need the note on the front page anymore?<br />
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And what's with all the 500.shtml errors? [[User:۞|۞]] 17:57, 19 April 2007 (BST)<br />
:yeah i keep getting those errors too --[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 18:16, 19 April 2007 (BST)<br />
::Another thing: how can we undo all those changes that make album covers link straight to the article? It's now impossible to view larger images of the cover art.[[User:۞|۞]] 08:57, 20 April 2007 (BST)<br />
:::Just click on the "Redirected from" link. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 17:02, 20 April 2007 (BST)<br />
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Nice touch with the random phrases under the title, just noticed it. [[User:۞|۞]] 17:12, 14 May 2007 (BST)<br />
:Yeah its sort of my thing when i make fansites haha. Musecast and crazybobbles has it so i thought, why not install an extension just for it. I might look for other areas of the wiki to do the random stuff too. --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 01:30, 15 May 2007 (BST)<br />
::Haha, yeah, they're hilarious, I love them. Good work. -[[User:Susurr0|Susurr0]] 23:34 21 May 2007 (UTC+2)<br />
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== Frontpage image ==<br />
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I have no idea if it's just my PC or whatever but the image on the frontpage seems to collide with the seperator bar thingies :|<br />
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Any way of fixing this?<br />
:I've got a feeling I [http://getfirefox.com know] [http://konqueror.org the] [http://opera.com solution]. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 18:20, 7 June 2007 (BST)<br />
:Hah hah.<br />
:Not funny.<br />
:Surely it would be simpler to make the page work properly. I'm trying to help improve MuseWiki for everyone not just for myself<br />
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Just move '''<nowiki>[[Image:MuseBand2.jpg|Right|thumb|[[Muse]], the band]]</nowiki>''' below '''<nowiki>==MuseWiki==</nowiki>''' in the code and the picture wont be impaled!<br />
I'd do it myself, but I don't have sysops rights.<br />
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[[User:7|7]] 22:15, 19 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
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== Band Member Photos ==<br />
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Why not have some a bit more recent, maybe even of them playing? [[User:7|7]] 07:07, 18 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
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Example:<br />
<gallery><br />
Image:Mattmomsbabywe0.jpg|[[Matthew Bellamy]] (Vocals, Guitar, Keyboard, Lyrics) <br />
Image:Chrisfighettomode.jpg|[[Christopher Wolstenholme]] (Bass, Backing Vocals)<br />
Image:Domdibluwm5.jpg|[[Dominic Howard]] (Drums, Percussions, Human Bones) <br />
</gallery><br />
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The photos would probably need to match in some way, though.<br />
:Ah here's a project for you, round off as many muse photos as you can and turn them into small boxes, then bam! I will use the random script to generate random images each time so people dont get bored of the images :) --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 20:41, 27 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
::Ha! And I thought I was going crazy! See: [[User:7/Sandbox]] [[User:7|7]] 00:30, 13 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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== Motto/Catchphrase ==<br />
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What about a motto for the site?!<br />
Sugggestions?<br />
[[User:7|7]] 07:09, 18 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:Now for a marketeer type person I would say our motto would include the words "Muse, muse band, muse fansite, muse wiki, haarp tour, royal albert hall" and a few other search terms that would aid the site from getting more viewers ;) My trait for fansites is I always have loads of subtitles randomly generated on the homepage, this is a homage to futurama's subtitle at the beginning of each episode (which is why I wrote "In color" but noone got the reference :() Feel free to use my talk page if you have more questions that probably can be answered by myself since I'll most likely forget that this page was edited, should stalk them relly haha --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 20:41, 27 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
==NavFrames==<br />
Any chance we could have the code for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NavFrame NavFrames] installed to allow for expandable tables? Would be great for tidying away excessive technical information in some articles (see discography talk page!). [[User:۞|۞]] 18:31, 14 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:We need someone with an access to MediaWiki pages. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 04:07, 15 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::Which would be Crazybobbles when he's next able to - but [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Collapsible_tables collapsible tables] seem to be preferable so maybe they're a better choice to use once the code is copied over. [[User:۞|۞]] 20:28, 15 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::Aren't admins capable of editting them as well, maybe admins have less power on this wiki... --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 17:15, 16 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
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==Colours==<br />
I think the colours on this page should be more similar to our colours (read: dissimilar to Wikipedia). I was thinking of taking the colours from our logo and varying the blue and yellow from that, keeping the ratios of each of the three hex (#ff ff ff) parts the same. Though I'm no expert in colours and whatnot so I don't know whether that'd look good. I mean, the blue here doesn't look like our blue and I think maybe... a lighter yellow would be okay for the left column?<br />
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Also, does anyone know where all the styling is stored? I think we could curvelatiousify (ahem) the tabs, corners and whatnot.<br />
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''Also'', perhaps we could ratify our colour scheme generally. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 01:59, 6 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
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Oh... sure. That's a good idea, I guess.<br />
I'll change the version on [[User:7/Main Page Project]] as an example. [[User:7|7]] 06:11, 6 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
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==Cryptography==<br />
It's been a few years since the cryptography thing, aren't there higher priority thing (like our '''new songs chronology''') that could be linked on the main page instead? [[User:۞|۞]] 23:01, 21 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:Cheers! [[User:۞|۞]] 00:08, 22 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
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==MuseWiki logo==<br />
It's been gone for a few days now...or is it just me? [[User:۞|۞]] 15:14, 5 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
:See [[MuseWiki:Community_Portal#Whoa.21.21.21|here]]. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 15:22, 5 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
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== Why? ==<br />
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Can I ask why we still have the Muse in history section here when no one bothers to update it?<br/><br />
Why don't we have like on [[User:7/Main Page Project|7's]] idea of haveing a did you know section with many facts.<br/><br />
Any thoughts?<br />
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[[User:Eheheh1000|Gilly]] 13:50, 16 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
:I'd hazard a guess that no-one's come up with a list of trivia to put in that section, yet. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 17:25, 16 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
::7 has got a few ideas on his main page but fair point [[User:Eheheh1000|Gilly]] 19:12, 16 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::...[[Template:Did You Know...|Take a look]]. I reckon that's enough for the moment. I really hope someone adds the Did You Know section before we look any stupider with a month-old This Week in History on our main page. [[User:7|User:]] 01:26, 27 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
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== As Long As We're Putting Bulletins on the Main Page.... ==<br />
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...we should add something about [[User:۞#Muse_Demo_Campaign|The Campaign]] to inform potential helpers! [[User:7|User:]] 01:18, 27 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
:I'll add it on crazybobbles.org so it will appear on the bottom bit --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 20:41, 27 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
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== Muse News (Mews Nuse?) ==<br />
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Lame jokes aside, I think that the Muse News section should be changed from <b>showdesc="true"</b> to <b>showdesc="false"</b>, which would take off that little paragraph beneath the title of the story to make the page seem less cluttered. What does everyone else think?[[User:7|7]] 06:20, 14 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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== MuseWire on the Main Page? ==<br />
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Hmm? Would it visually overload the page? Would it fit? Would it replace something else? [[User:7|7]] 23:38, 3 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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== BHaR Tour Edition Intro/'350.54' ==<br />
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Shouldn't we have a page on this?<br />
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So people know what I'm talking about:<br />
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http://muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=25377<br />
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There's also a link in that thread to the original file related to the whole cryptology thing from 2005, for an extended history/more info about the "song."<br />
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What d'you reckon?<br />
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== [[User:MuseIsAbsolution/Wolstenholme-ism|Wolstenholme-ism]] ==<br />
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I, [[User:MuseIsAbsolution|MuseIsAbsolution]], hereby announce the founding of [[User:MuseIsAbsolution/Wolstenholme-ism|Wolstenholme-ism]]! I know it's quite lame, but I just really agree with whoever else said that Matt Bellamy seems to have a MASSIVE page in comparison to Chris and Dom. Feedback would be nice. We have improvements to make here on MuseWiki.<br />
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Thanks MuseWiki<br />
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=="Spoiler" policy==<br />
Just something I have in mind for the inevitable 5th album leak in a few months time, I'm adding here while I remember it. Should we prevent the addition of new lyrics and information obtained from the leak, and only allow that from interviews and news etc? Whilst I will most likely listen to the leak myself, some users of Musewiki will abstain from the leak until the official release of the album, and it wouldn't be fair for those who'd rather have the full "new album experience" [[User:۞|۞]] 00:17, 27 February 2009 (GMT)<br />
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:Maybe the lyrics could be added but with a spoiler warning. [[User:Salty|Salty]] 04:51, 27 February 2009 (GMT)<br />
::Hm, perhaps another red-box template with something to the effect of "SPOILER WARNING: Information from leaked album not otherwise available is presented below." --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 19:39, 27 February 2009 (GMT)<br />
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== music ==<br />
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Do you think we should add music to the front page like they do on the official page?<br />
:We don't hold the copyrights or have permission. And there's the issue of bandwidth. This site violates copyright law anyway, but thankfully no one seems to care that we host things like lyrics and low quality clips of songs so it doesn't matter. Plus, why? People could just go to the official site... [[User:۞|۞]] 20:13, 24 April 2009 (BST)<br />
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== Media archive ==<br />
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There is now no quick way to access the archive...was it removed for a ''particular'' reason or can the link be returned to the sidebar of main page? [[User:۞|۞]] 21:50, 14 June 2009 (BST)<br />
:Just a precautionary measure against copyright trolls.... I think it a good indication that the stated purpose of the section is accurate. I would like to see opposing points/analyses though. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 21:58, 14 June 2009 (BST)<br />
::Fair enough - I guess the site may get more attention as the year progresses due to the new album and such so better safe than sorry. I was thinking more for the benefit of fans who might not know it's there to read articles about the band, but then again any good info is incorporated into other Musewiki articles anyway so that's not such a problem as long as there citations. [[User:۞|۞]] 23:00, 14 June 2009 (BST)<br />
:::Indeed, the idea being that all the information which is in the archive is also in our articles... although, naturally, that will take quite some effort and time ;). --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 23:27, 14 June 2009 (BST)<br />
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== General image linking question ==<br />
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I'm making a template which involves an image linking to an external site - except it doesn't seem to work. I though this was simply <nowiki>[[Image:image.jpg|link=http://www.google.com/]]</nowiki> ... but this does not work. Am I being stupid or what? <br />
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For example, let's say I want a small Muse logo to link to the official site - <nowiki>[[Image:Muselogo.png|50px|link=http://www.muse.mu/]]</nowiki> I would have thought, but this just gives [[Image:Muselogo.png|50px|link=http://www.muse.mu/]] and treats the link a alt text. =/ [[User:۞|Niall]] 15:03, 27 June 2009 (BST)<br />
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:Nah, that's MediaWiki 1.14 stuff, I just haven't got round to installing that bad boy yet haha, might do it now...--[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 16:57, 27 June 2009 (BST) ... right backing up the wiki, get ready for some 1.14 action!<br />
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:: Booyaa, upgraded to 1.15! (Very out of date I am) The link works now :) --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 19:32, 27 June 2009 (BST)<br />
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== Muse sidebar/front page ==<br />
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IMO videography on the front page sould be replaced by discography, a condierably larger and more widley used part of Musewiki, as videography is already on the sidebar. Why videograpy but not discography? Some other parts on the front page such as Quotes and Commericla Use are rarely edited and viewed and edited sections of the site, and could be made accessible via other pages.<br />
My idea: <br />
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{|style="width:100%;margin-top:.7em;border:1px solid #ccc;-moz-border-radius:1em;-webkit-border-radius:1em; background:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, left bottom, from(#3a85ea), to(#fcfcfc), color-stop(0.5, #f3f5fd), color-stop(0.5, #f3f5fd))"<br />
|style="width:56%;"|<br />
{|style="width:280px;border:0;background:none"<br />
|-<br />
|style="width:280px;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;" |<br />
<div style="font-size:1.62em;border:none;margin:0;padding:.1em;">Welcome to [[Muse|MuseWiki]]</div><br />
<div style="top:.2em;font-size:.95em">{{Subtitle}}</div><br />
<div style="width:100%;text-align:center;font-size:.85em">[[Special:Statistics|{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}]] articles about [[Muse]], written by [[Special:Listusers|{{NUMBEROFUSERS}} pornogenic musers]] (99.5% sign up for the lulz<!--ruddy trollfags-->)</div><br />
|}<!-- Portals Follow --><br />
|class="boxmenu" style="width:11%;font-size:.95em"|<br />
*[[Muse]]<br />
*[[Biography]]<br />
*[[Gigs|Tour Dates]]<br />
|class="boxmenu" style="width:11%;font-size:.95em"|<br />
*[[Discography]]<br />
*[[Videography]]<br />
*[[Song anthology]]<br />
|class="boxmenu" style="width:11%;font-size:.95em"|<br />
*[[Gear]]<br />
*[[Tablature|Tabs]]<br />
*[[Influences]]<br />
|}<br />
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Thoughts? [[User:۞|Niall]] 15:25, 11 July 2009 (BST)<br />
:Yeah makes sense, no idea why disco isn't there, probably back then i thought the sidebar would help, DO IT :P --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 17:35, 11 July 2009 (BST)<br />
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== Attracting new users ==<br />
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So, a while back I discussed with Sam ways we could get more information on to MuseWiki, as it is missing a fair bit of info still it seems. There are already quite a few people complaining because a gig they went to isn't on the official site, the archive of which was composed both from an official record and those on MuseWiki, but appearntly isn't complete. So what I'm going to do is make a few stickied threads on the official message board to get people to come over to here and contribute the missing info. It does mean we'll have some more articles that don't go with current conventions I expect, let's put it like that, but those can fixed and it means we'll have extra information that would otherwise be missing. And hopefully attract some of the older pre-Showbiz fans to help with those gigs. <br />
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In addition I'll be asking people to contribute to the Discography more if they have information on and images of rare Muse stuff. I'll be a help contact for people who don't know what to do or want to help but don't want to edit the wiki via the board and niall@muse.mu so there shouldn't be a lot of confused people around, but just a heads up incase any trolls turn up or something. Thoughts/objections/mutinies? Cheers, [[User:۞|Niall]] 11:39, 14 July 2009 (BST)<br />
:Sounds good to me, there has been an admin [at] musewiki [dawt] org email which a few people have used and occasionally people find it comical shoving stuff in my user page to tell me about stuff, but yeah... things haven't been too proactive with the fans :p stickies would be good and perhaps museboard should now have a link to musewiki at the bottom? this week's quite a busy week for me so i won't be able to give any proper thoughts on it yet mind but should be able to help out more on the weekends (should be anyway). --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 11:46, 14 July 2009 (BST)<br />
::Kev says he is reluctant to have it on the forums unfortunately =[ I will still try and get more people over hear to contribute. For now I've been given that email address so that people can get me to do it for them, but that's not the whole point in a wiki. [[User:۞|Niall]] 15:50, 14 July 2009 (BST)<br />
:::Would have thought there'd be some sort of three way going on with the sites now but I guess not, back then the issue with musewiki link at the bottom was that I worked as a mod and obviously that'd be a bit biased in having my site there even though it helps a lot of folks at the main muse area finding information out. The other issue was the lack of officialness with muse.mu but i thought we are considered as official now. so yeah, would be interested to see the reasons why but it's no biggie since muse.mu is scattered with musewiki links to entice users. Give it some time i guess, though most users would assume that the information they know is already filled so it's hard to motivate people to actively look for places to fill up. --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 16:12, 14 July 2009 (BST)<br />
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== Formatting on this page ==<br />
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What's up with it? Muse.mu content messing with it? [[User:۞|Niall]] 19:42, 18 January 2010 (GMT)<br />
:Still messed up in Chrome. The news and twitter feeds have been shifted below the band pictures. [[User:۞|Niall]] 14:45, 15 February 2010 (GMT)<br />
::Yes, it is messed up in Chrome, exactly as you described... does anyone know how to fix this?? [[User:EmilyWine|EmilyWine]] 18:17, 25 June 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Pointless users ==<br />
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Can we ban users who come on Musewiki and then only make pages about themselves? This isn't a social networking site. [[User:۞|Niall]] 14:44, 15 February 2010 (GMT)<br />
:I imagine that leaving them be would be advantageous PR-wise, while I doubt that banning any would reduce the rate at which 'social networking' types sign up. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 14:36, 16 February 2010 (GMT)<br />
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== TOC issues. ==<br />
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==Weird Site Notice on my Stalklist==<br />
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Is anyone else seeing this? [[User:7|7]] 04:00, 27 October 2008 (GMT)<br />
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==Suggestions!==<br />
Hi, everyone! My former wiki's having some sort of crisis so I decided to check back here, and I found that Dom and Chris's articles are simply atrocious compared to Matt's. Does any one mind if this article becomes more like Matt's (with a little gallery at the end and whatnot). And what if we make a little table with all the member's info, like one of the songboxes, but with their info and whatnot. I wouldn't mind putting it together! :D [[User:7|7]] 21:29, 25 October 2008 (BST)<br />
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Something like this? (You can play with the color/labels/whatever) [[User:7|7]] 21:37, 25 October 2008 (BST)<br />
:yeah like this idea :) do it! --[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 12:09, 27 October 2008 (GMT)<br />
::Coolies. see here: [[Template:MuseMember]] -- [[User:7|7]] 00:44, 4 November 2008 (GMT)<br />
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==A bug?==<br />
What happened [[Nantes Olympic 1999 (gig)|here]]?... [[User:7|7]] 19:09, 11 July 2008 (BST)<br />
:There's no link to that page from the gig listings, maybe it's a mistake of some kind that never got deleted. -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 21:13, 11 July 2008 (BST)<br />
::Could the same thing happen to the whole site if 'bobbles purges the history logs? - [[User:7|7]] 22:25, 11 July 2008 (BST)<br />
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==Sidebar '''Songs''' Link==<br />
As you probably already know, the '''Songs''' link on the sidebar leads to [[:Category:Songs]]. Some have suggested that it be changed so it leads to the [[Song Anthology]]. Some have even suggested that the link lead to a disambiguation page, allowing the people to choose how they want the list displayed. To finally settle the matter, let's have the <s>first</s> second-ever MuseWiki vote:<br />
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*{{yes}} --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:27, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
*{{yes}} [[User:Z|Z]] 00:21, 24 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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*{{yes}} [[User:7|7]] 06:23, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
*{{yes}} --[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 13:07, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
*{{yes}} -[[User:Regret Tenenbaum|Regret Tenenbaum]] 19:45, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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*{{yes}} -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 22:55, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
*{{yes}}--[[User:Susurr0|Susurr0]] 12:26, 25 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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:No (to the proposed change). I added the anthology to the front page despite thinking it's worthless for navigation purposes. For a navigation menu however, I wouldn't approve.<br />
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And secondly don't say "some say". That is sophism at its most vile. That's what Faux News and the like use for saying "I say". --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:24, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
::It wasn't sophism. The "some" he referred to in the first instance was me, and the "some" in the second instance was Sursurr0. That said, having thought about it a little more practically (as opposed to aesthetically), I think a disambiguation would be better, even if only as a compromise. -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 22:55, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
:::In which case state who or how many it is. "Some" has the ambiguity of implying at least a few people. You might think "two say" wouldn't have the same effect, which would be the point.<br />
:::As for this second proposal, it would be easier to have a link to the anthology in the category page.<br />
:::Lastly, sorry for being a bit harsh, I'm in a ratty mood at the moment. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 23:17, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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I'm undecided. A disambig page would be superfluous though as a link to the other song page can be used. If we can clear up the excess of riffs that have their own song pages I'd say keep things the way they are. [[User:۞|۞]]<br />
:agreed the riffs thing definitely needs sorting out. maybe a tidied up alphabetical list page would be better than the category page? i think more information about each song is needed rather than just the names, which is why i like the anthology page but i do see what Tene is saying about navigation--[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 12:33, 7 July 2008 (BST)<br />
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===Well, that seems long enough, I think...===<br />
Everyone who will vote seems to have voted... so the Anthology it is! (Unless someone wants to appeal their case...?) [[User:7|7]] 00:09, 25 June 2008 (BST)<br />
:I think 2 days is a little soon. Give it the rest of the week, at least. -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 00:13, 25 June 2008 (BST)<br />
::Sure, but it seems to me like everyone who is going to vote already has... [[User:7|7]] 04:48, 25 June 2008 (BST)<br />
:::You haven't even layed out the ''reason'' for changing it yet. What advantage does the anthology have for navigation over an alphabetical list? Unreasoned preferences are inconsequential. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 09:01, 25 June 2008 (BST)<br />
::::The main benefits of the anthology are:<br />
*It doesn't lump all the proper tracks in with the riffs, the old tracks that were played during Battle of the Bands etc. and remixes.<br />
*It's more consistent with the rest of the sidebar, since they all link to proper pages instead of category pages.<br />
*It's simply ''prettier''.<br />
If I missed anything, feel free to append. Now, it'd only be fair if you said why you don't want to change it, I think. -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 12:19, 25 June 2008 (BST)<br />
:::::It's alphabetical and therefore easier to navigate, for both those who have no knowledge of the period in which the song they're navigating to was composed and those who know the song titles well.<br />
:::::How often do people search for songs within a period as opposed to a song by its name? If someone wants to know about a period, then it's quite easy to go to the front page and click on "song anthropology", plus there's a link ''right at the top of the category page''.<br />
:::::Also, when did the rule by majority arrive here and why wasn't I informed? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 12:44, 25 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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==Adsense on musewiki, yay or nay?==<br />
Have your say on the idea of deploying ads on musewiki, more details on the situation can be found at the [[MuseWiki:News|updates page]]<br />
:Well, I can't say I'm too fond of ads, though so long as ... they're text only, and stay text only; people can block them if they so wish; the money goes into server expenses rather than your back pocket ... that wouldn't be so bad ;) --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:50, 14 October 2007 (BST)<br />
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:I say NAY! What's the point? How are ads beneficial for the site? [[User:7|7]] 23:57, 18 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
::Err...cash? / [[User:Time Q|Time Q]] 19:19, 23 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::Oh... good point... I SAY YAY! [[User:7|7]] 22:11, 23 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::I hate to flip-flop, But after careful consideration, I have changed my mind. '''''I SAY NAY!''''' In truth, ads suck...and they suck bad. I don't want the purity of our wiki to be corrupted by the hydra-headed corporate monster (to put it lightly). But, 'bobbles, (is it OK that I address you so informally?) if you really need the money that badly, then yes. [[User:7|User:]] 01:40, 26 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
::::Nah I don't need the money at all, I can't do ads anyway, lets just say somebody made £200 back in the days from crazybobbles.org and was never allowed back into the realms that is adsense la la, but that story is for another day! --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 20:32, 27 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
==Wanted (psuedo-ToDo) in order of priority==<br />
*People to go through gigs that have not happened yet and fill in the gig box, referencing the ticket sale pages. It's a bit late when the gig has passed! **This is particularly suited to those who speak the language of the country the concert takes place in.<br />
*Scans of tickets, old (and new) set lists, preferably with points of reference but also from memory.<br />
**Badger old-school Muse fans that you know!<br />
*People (especially native speakers of the articles' language) to '''transcribe''' - as accurately as possible - written '''articles'''/features and audio/video '''interviews'''. Of course this goes for English ones too ;)<br />
*Someone (especially of the musically inclined) to go through recordings and suss out differences within songs over time and then writing a clean summary with understandable details on the song pages.<br />
**These summaries should be under a <nowiki>====Live====</nowiki> header<br />
**The details should be ... '''detailed''' ... but also '''accessible''' to those who don't understand technobabble.<br />
*Proper articles on each album, a la the [[Black Holes and Revelations (album)|Black Holes and Revelations]] album. This will become easier as more transcriptions are added to our [[Media archive|media reference archive]].<br />
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Suggestions for refining, rewording or adding to this ToDo list are very welcome. I might make this official and make a (somewhat) inconspicuous link to it on the front page if no one objects soon - particularly our resident benevolent dictator. ;) --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 02:25, 11 October 2007 (BST)<br />
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:Sounds like a good idea. I'm glad that this wiki gets edited a bit more often now compared to the last weeks. Let me think about it, maybe I'll come up with some other points. What immediately comes to my mind, however, are small "fun" articles like [[Ultimate]]. Isn't there a MediaWiki feature to list the shortest articles? I think we could find quite a few unnecessary articles and such which need rewriting. Oh, and we need a more standard way of presenting information on certain topics. Gig pages are good, so are the album templates, but there are many articles without any concept or categories. I think a goal would be to have a suitable category for every topic (= article). And another point, what about some templates such as "This article needs expansion", "this article contains POV" and such? Okay, maybe we would need more active users for this. / [[User:Time Q|Time Q]] 21:11, 12 October 2007 (BST)<br />
::"'''Okay, maybe we would need more active users for this'''": Quite ;) Although a "Pure bullshit" category for the more ''obvious'' "humour" wouldn't be such a bad idea. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:50, 14 October 2007 (BST)<br />
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==Using dates/Muse News==<br />
Where shall we add Muse news? (Latest News page is for Wiki news, but where Muse News?)<br />
Thanks for new Muse Latest News page and Link in Main Menu, if possible. Thanks says 7steffen.<br />
:I problem with news is that its not really good for wikis, however, I'm thinking about doing an article for each month so August 2006. This should contain all articles that relate to muse and if they're not article quality, they can simply be added onto the page as news. What does everyone think? --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]]<br />
::Right, I'm going to start putting this date thing into play, the way this is going to work is to make sure that every date we use includes the month and year so eventually we can use the "what links here" button to collate each month into a calender type thing if that makes sense. have a look at this months stuff @ [[September 2006]] if you're still a bit confused --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 02:35, 6 September 2006 (BST)<br />
:::Ok, I've had a go with the top bit and it looks ok, but I'm not sure whether this is the best way forward so I'll defintiely need some feedback on the whole idea and all. --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 02:46, 6 September 2006 (BST)<br />
::::Right I've got a feed section going on now, whats left to do is for someone to help style this baby into the main page, I'm going to create a sort of mirror of the main page and lets hope someone can do an awesome redesign of the page. Heres the feed:<br />
<feed items="6" showtitle="false" showdesc="false">http://www.muse.mu/rss.php</feed><br />
--[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 09:25, 12 May 2007 (BST)<br />
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==Should there be a rules page for the wiki?==<br />
I think its time we should set up a rules and regulations page, dedicated for conventions and stuff people should or should not do. I see Tene is getting quite pissed with people's POV on articles. I agree that this needs to stop as we really dont need it. This also includes the new naming conventions as well.<br />
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So lets get the ball rolling<br />
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[[MuseWiki:Rules|Wiki Rules]]<br />
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==Colour coding for template boxes==<br />
Right I think there should be different colours for different types of boxes, this will make it much more easier to distinguish and all. I'd like blue to be for songs and green for gigs, not sure about the others, what do you think? --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 19:01, 6 September 2006 (BST)<br />
:I believe it was green before the disaster ... I'm all for the gigs template being green, it looked good then. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 01:02, 30 October 2006 (GMT)<br />
::Good idea, but why do songs, singles, albums, EPs and DVDs have the same colour? Why only gigs have a different colour?<br />
::: Yeah, I was meaning to get the albumbox converted to discobox and change the colour scheme, right now its Gigs = Green, Songs = Blue and Disco = Purple. Not sure about the purple atm, so feel free to suggest different colours (give html colour codes if possible) --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 17:55, 30 October 2006 (GMT) <br />
::By the way, this is not exactly about their colour but adding a new box for videos, what do you think? --[[User:Susurr0|Susurr0]] 16:02, 30 October 2006 (UTC+2)<br />
:::Sounds good, just I'll start one up, but its best to get the fields correct before we start rolling out --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 17:55, 30 October 2006 (GMT)<br />
::::OK, lets see: name, album?, length, year, recorded (when and where?), director, release... what do you think? did I miss something? And a suggestion, if you're going to create the box, I think we should create an article for each video version, because if we don't, how could we put the info for both videos in the box? (sorry if you don't understand me very good)--[[User:Susurr0|Susurr0]] 22:58, 30 October 2006 (UTC+2)<br />
:::::Hello there. I see there's a "Year" field on the discobox, but it's not shown on the page! Most albums specify the year on the Release Date, but singles don't. Any solutions? Thanks. --[[User:Tana|Tana]] 20:52, 14 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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==E-mail confirmation required to edit==<br />
I just created an account, but when I tried to edit pages, it gave this error message:<br />
:E-mail confirmation required to edit (page title)<br />
:You must confirm your e-mail address before editing pages. Please set and validate your e-mail address through your user [[Special:Preferences|preferences]].<br />
:Return to [[MuseWiki]].<br />
It's not a big problem, but when registering, some page told me that I didn't need to validate to edit stuff. I clicked the link in the e-mail, and now everything works fine.[[User:VDZ|VDZ]] 19:37, 4 June 2007 (BST)<br />
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==& in article title==<br />
I just made an article called [[Mucke & Mehr (online)]] but there seem to be problems with the '&' in the name. What to do? The text I uploaded to this page (and also to [[Interview (200005 Mucke & Mehr article)|this]] page) seems to be lost. / [[User:Time Q|Time Q]] 12:01, 20 June 2007 (BST)<br />
:Ampersands on this wiki is a big big no-no. Just use "and" in the title instead. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 17:16, 20 June 2007 (BST)<br />
::Okay, thanks for correcting it, didn't know how to do this. / [[User:Time Q|Time Q]] 17:31, 20 June 2007 (BST)<br />
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==Recorders==<br />
Would anyone object to a section about prominent recorders? I think it would be beneficial, but the idea does seem a bit arse-kissing-y to me. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 20:58, 21 June 2007 (BST)<br />
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==Naming riffs and jams==<br />
Any convention on how jams should be named? For example, there was that jam often played before Sunburn (e.g. [[Osaka WTC Open Air Stadium 2000 (gig)]]) now revived. Some of the jams might even deserve their own page, like the Osaka Jam or Jimmy Jam... --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 10:30, 20 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:The only way I see of doing that is asking for suggestions on Muselive or another forum. I don't think we should have one page per improvisation, I suggest having them all on one page. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 11:09, 20 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
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==Gear template==<br />
Can anyone more knowledgeable with MediaWiki and wiki syntax create a template for guitars? (much like the ones for gigs) As for the options: wood(s), body covering, pickup(s) (or bridge and neck separate), electronics, and special circuits. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 10:59, 23 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:Ended up doing it myself at [[Template:Guitarbox]]. Enjoy. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 04:51, 25 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
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==Namespace==<br />
What do you think of the idea of using namespaces for gigs? So instead of [[London Earls Court Exhibition Centre 2004 - 20th (gig)]], it'd be [[Gig:London Earls Court Exhibition Centre 2004 - 20th]]. Easier to organize and go through, I don't know about the implementation though ([http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces not just naming it with Gig, but having MediaWiki recognize it as a different namespace]). --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 21:44, 25 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:I'm pretty sure you need to be able to edit the MediaWiki installation itself to implement that, which I can't do. Seems like a good idea though. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:00, 25 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
::Any idea where crazybobbles is? --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 22:46, 25 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::Well, he's still alive. I posted in his shout box on last.fm yesterday but he didn't reply. He replied to someone else's shout though. :P --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:51, 25 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
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==Equipment used==<br />
Do you think adding "guitar/bass" used for each song in the setlist is going a bit too far? Just a thought. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 23:53, 30 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:I think a simple <nowiki><br/><small>{{{guit}}}|{{{gpage}}}]][[{{{bass}}}|{{{bpage}}}]]</small></nowiki> would be best for the template. Once conditionals get installed we could use them. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 07:47, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:Oh and maybe append piano details manually afterwards if a piano was used? Or include that without a link so we can use <nowiki>{{{piano|}}}</nowiki> so it doesn't appear if there's no piano defined. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 07:51, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::I did it like [[Template:GU|this]] instead. Most flexible IMO. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 07:54, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::Problem is with that, if we ever decided to improve upon the layout we'd have to go through all the pages to do so. Seperating style/layout from information is generally a good thing. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 07:56, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::::That sorta misses the whole point of using this template though... --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 08:01, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::::Why? Templates are so that the information is adaptable and the style doesn't need re-writing every time. Please take a look at [[:Template:GUexp]] and comment on it. It's much simpler than my earlier proposal. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 08:12, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::::::I suppose this could work if we, at some point, decide to have different colors for different gear or something... Dunno, just seems like a lot of work, and harder to apply each time without referring to examples. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 08:15, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::::::(edit: also, less intuitive when it comes to adding commas, notes, and stuff... --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 08:19, 10 December 2007 (GMT))<br />
::::::::Commas can't be included with the template until we get conditionals. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 08:20, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::::::::Yeah I think due to that it would do more harm than good (we'd end up with extraneous commas when commas are added to the template). When we get the extension installed we can work some wizadry then. At that time, we can use an #if, print the new template if any of the vars are defined else print the old template. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 08:52, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::::::::::So, we use [[Template:GU]] for now? --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 09:05, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::::::::::Yeah. Btw, does the version with superscript look better to you? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 09:08, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:Hmm, too much spacing? Since it is done in templates, we could always control the margin size on the <nowiki><small></nowiki> tag instead. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 09:15, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::Nevermind about 'too much spacing' comment, I just realized it's the same spacing, just closer to the song name. Margin size comment stays though. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 09:20, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::Which margin? Bottom? I thought the disproportionally large bottom margin made it more readable... ---[[User:Tene|Tene]] 09:23, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::::I was thinking the margin after the equipments was slightly too large, but seeing it again, it looks alright. Either it's good, or I just gotten used to it :D. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 09:29, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
<br />
==Different logo==<br />
Did anybody else notice that ''OOS'' (and its singles/EPs) has a different Muse logo from most instances? Do we have any other instances like that we could maybe note? (one I can think about at the moment is the proper release of ''Random 1-8'') --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 21:53, 16 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
<br />
==New category==<br />
How's the idea of having a category named "People"? Makes searching for people easier imo. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 02:50, 23 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:I have no preference, but do we really have enough articles about people to make it useful? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 10:15, 24 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::Perhaps we do... but how'd we file the band members... still under Muse right? 'People' would perhaps refer to producers, tom kirk, gaia... any more? [[User:EmilyWine|EmilyWine]] 22:28, 21 June 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Anti-waffle brigade==<br />
I came across [http://www.plainenglish.co.uk this "Simple English Campaign"]. I've found it of use, there are simple alternatives I hadn't even thought about in years. :P Their alternative words list might help us avoid adding opinion, unnecessary waffle or just going up our own proverbial arses. Pardon my French. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 10:15, 24 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
<br />
==Decluttered discobox test alert==<br />
See [[Uno (single)]].<br />
*Does it work in your browser<br />
*Does it look good<br />
*Is it intuitive<br />
:It ''works'' in Webkit, KHTML and Gecko (Firefox), if someone with IE6 &/or 7 could take a look, that'd be grand. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 19:05, 25 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
::IE7 works fine! [[User:7|User:]] 02:35, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::Good, thank you. Now all that's needed is confirmation that the text still shows in IE6. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 11:14, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:If we get the conditionals installed we could do something like this included in the template:<br />
:<nowiki><!--[if lt IE 7]></nowiki><br/><br />
<nowiki>HovStatus(HovEffect)</nowiki><br/><br />
<nowiki>hov = document.getElementByClass("col");</nowiki><br/><br />
<nowiki>hov.firstChild.style.display = HovEffect;</nowiki><br/><br />
<nowiki><![endif]--></nowiki><br/><br/><br />
<nowiki><!--[if lt IE 7]>onmouseover="HovStatus('inline')<![endif]--></nowiki><br />
:for IE6. Until then it'd just display inline all the time. The conditionals would be needed to make a template for the whole thing, not for that IE specific code. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 14:56, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
::::I personally don't think hovers are a good idea, the fancy one's use the <code>:hover</code> css and allow a bit of time to go back, I think a better idea would be to stick to collapsible tables to store additional information since click on something to show additional information is a better method. --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 15:26, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::::Well in that case at least make sure the default (if the browser has JS disabled) is uncollapsed. ''tsk tsk I hate JS'' --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 15:35, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::::Hm, there's something strange here. When client CSS is disabled, the collapsible tables appear in plain text, but when CSS is enabled, it's permanently collapsed? It should use javascript to make it collapsed to begin with. Any idea how to do that? The code in Commons.js is huge. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 16:26, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
It stopped working, along with all the previous versions. sorry. [[User:7|User:]] 19:43, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:Can you check whether it's working again now please? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 19:48, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
::Ooh... sory for the late reply... It works fine now, thanks! ...But the tabs at the top of all of the pages (article, talk, edit, history...) have gone blank (all I see is the text and the colored outline)... probably unrelated, but I just wanted to make sure it was known. [[User:7|User:]] 21:03, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::Try a hard refresh. Ctrl+Shift+R I think. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 21:16, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
::::It works! Thanks! [[User:7|User:]] 21:20, 26 January 2008 (GMT) <br />
:One minor fault in IE7, just asthaetic, the revelead text variably has bullet points (or half bullet points :S) in the adjacent column of the table. And the main page doesn't display right in Opera, the Muse in the news and other boxes have been shifted below the images. [[User:۞|۞]] 22:45, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
::Any better now? Otherwise I've no idea. I really, really hate IE. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:52, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::No change...maybe a subtle link to Firefox on the main page will do. [[User:۞|۞]] 23:58, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
::::That would be a good idea regardless. But I changed list-style to list-style-type, does that seem to work in IE7? I'm off for the night anyway. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 00:11, 27 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::::[http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee281/krwling/unosingle.jpg Uno single], [http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee281/krwling/musewiki.jpg Main page], and [http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee281/krwling/Untitled.jpg BHAR TEST A] on IE7. [[User:Z|Z]] 05:53, 27 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::::[http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee281/krwling/untitled-1.jpg Uno single] on IE6. [[User:Z|Z]] 00:21, 28 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
=="This Week in Muse History" Section==<br />
Seems like too much of an unnecessary bother. As the idiot who hatched this idea, I vote against it, but I'd like to know the opinion of others. [[User:7|User:]] 02:45, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:: I vote against it too tbh, anything that requires weekly labour is a bad idea haha. I suppose it would be a good idea to change it to month and perhaps have a months page so things are easy to collate in future (so you only need to do this 12 times and the next year you just add new stuff in). There is a lot of potential for something awesome to happen here but it's probably going to take more effort than it's worth.<br />
::My suggest would be to have a "did you know" section, we can easily make use of the random function and just write quite a lot of trivial about the band that would prove useful for everyone. That way not only is it ever changing, it's self managed AND would be a good idea to promote other pages. --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 13:31, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::Sounds good. [[User:7/Main Page Project]] can be used a testing ground. [[User:7|User:]] 19:28, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
<br />
==Whoa!!!==<br />
I'm not sure if it's just the pure terribleness of IE, but the logo has disappeared except for "MuseWiki" and "BETA".<br />
[[User:7|User:]] 03:03, 4 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
:Yup, i removed it, kinda got extremely sick of the icon so I ditched it and stuck with the text and beta sign. Thought it looked quite cool now tbh, but yeah, still kinda in limbo of what to logoerise the site as. these things are tough :( --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 20:29, 4 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
<br />
==Flushing image thumbnail caches==<br />
Anyone here know how to do it? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:21, 6 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
<br />
==Parser functions and drop down template==<br />
Thanks to Crazybobbles, parser functions are now installed. Take a look [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions here] if you're interested. Feel free to adapt templates and make more using said functions.<br />
<br />
Also, I wrote [[Template:Drop]], for drop downs. Plus cite has been merged and [[Template:GU]] can be used in a more dynamic fashion, all making use of the parser funcions. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 09:15, 11 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
<br />
==Elegance==<br />
We really need to brainstorm how to make everything neater. Looking at pages (whilst editing) is just hurting my head. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 09:41, 11 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
<br />
== Gear ==<br />
Don't all (or most) of the members play synthesizers? --[[User:S.Örvarr.S|Stefán Örvarr Sigmundsson]] 04:31, 25 March 2008 (GMT)<br />
<br />
== The video nav is brokeded==<br />
<br />
It goes Starlight then Knights then Starlight in a never ending loop that never reaches Invincible. Help? [[User:Neon-Symmetry|Neon-Symmetry]] 21:31, 14 April 2008 (BST)<br />
:Un-brokeded! [[User:7|7]] 00:14, 15 April 2008 (BST)<br />
== Tabs ==<br />
Personally, I find [[Tablature]] horrible to navigate as one large alphabetical list, so I came up with an alternative largely based on the singles section of the discography. It can be seen [[User:Frozenjakalope/Tablature|here]]. What does everyone think? -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 12:53, 29 April 2008 (BST)<br />
<br />
<br />
==Subtemplate convention==<br />
Currently the de-facto way of laying subtemplates is as so:<br />
<pre>{{template<br />
|var1<br />
|var2<br />
|var3<br />
{{subtemplate<br />
|var1<br />
|var2<br />
|var3<br />
}}<br />
}}</pre><br />
<br />
Which, to me, is a bit difficult to read, especially with complex layouts such as those in discography box templates. Take a look at the source of [[Black Holes and Revelations (album)|this page]] as an example.<br />
<br />
So, I have a couple of alternative options that I'd appreciate comments on.<br />
<br />
<pre>{{template<br />
|var1<br />
|var2<br />
|var3<br />
{{subtemplate|<br />
var1|<br />
var2|<br />
var3<br />
}}<br />
}}</pre><br />
<br />
...and...<br />
<br />
<pre>{{template<br />
|var1<br />
|var2<br />
|var3{{subtemplate|<br />
var1|<br />
var2|<br />
var3}}<br />
}}</pre><br />
<br />
Which is most readable, the original, the first suggestion or the second suggestion?<br />
<br />
If either of the latter two are preferable, what should be done with sub-sub templates? Alternate between the pipe character being at the beginning and end, or have all sub-levels with it at the end? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 20:48, 17 May 2008 (BST)<br />
:Personally, I find the first one easier to read. -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 01:34, 18 May 2008 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Ah!? What is <i>THAT?!?!</i>==<br />
I was about to edit my stalklist when a peculliar advertisement slapped me in the face! What's this about "Bay area Wikipedians"??? seems like some Wikipedia advertisements have leaked their way onto MuseWiki!!! I checked with another site that's also "powered by MediaWiki" (as I suspected was the problem) and the ad was absent... so what's the matter? Is MuseWiki being encroached upon by Wikipedian spies?<br />
<br />
(It would be beneficial to check other sites that are "powered by MediaWiki" for the same problem to see if the problem is local, and your own stalklist pages to make sure I'm not going bonkers)<br />
<br />
[[User:7|7]] 02:44, 28 May 2008 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Audio preview thingies==<br />
Perhaps we should switch to OGG Vorbis so as to take advantage of [https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Using_audio_and_video_in_Firefox HTML5 audio and video]? Obviously, it wouldn't be that simple, but as an idea: comments? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 07:39, 18 July 2009 (BST)<br />
:The lack of support in IE8 would be a problem, no? -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 09:57, 18 July 2009 (BST)<br />
::Mm, perhaps falling back with some IE ifdef hackery to the current system would be apt ... I believe the other major browsers do support it, that is Chrome, Opera and Safari. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 10:01, 18 July 2009 (BST)<br />
<br />
== Media archive name ==<br />
<br />
Would anyone object to changing the name of our media archive to "reference archive"? The latter, I think, would be more accurate wrt its purpose. Any benefits to keeping it as "media archive", aside from that doing so would be less effort? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 15:43, 15 August 2009 (BST)<br />
:Makes sense. [[User:7|7]] 03:33, 16 August 2009 (BST)<br />
::M'kay, anyone else, before I go ahead? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 01:58, 17 August 2009 (BST)<br />
:::Well people might not understand what is meant by reference archive whereas media archive is self explanatory. People will go there because it is an organised archive of muse in the media and they may want to look up an article they once read/heard about. Calling it a reference archive IMO muddles it's purpose. {{WilfSig}} 11:31, 17 August 2009 (BST)<br />
== Media archive title convention ==<br />
<br />
What about ...<br/><br />
(''publication name'') yy-mm-dd—''title''<br/><br />
...as opposed to the current...<br/><br />
''title'' (yymmdd (''publication name'') article)<br />
<br />
====Example...====<br />
Now:<br/><br />
NME on Muse (19990220 NME article)<br/><br />
Suggestion:<br/><br />
NME 1999-02-20—NME on Muse<br/><br />
...'twould sort better than it does now. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 02:00, 17 August 2009 (BST)<br />
:agreed. I'll leave it to you to rename them all though :P {{WilfSig}} 11:34, 17 August 2009 (BST)<br />
<br />
== Appended bracketed types ==<br />
<br />
Does anyone think that they should be removed when a particular name has no more than one type (e.g., Screenager is a song, but nothing else, such as a single)? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 01:25, 20 August 2009 (BST)<br />
:My preference is no, keep things as they are for consistancy and to save A LOT of redirect and and editing times. [[User:۞|Niall]] 03:07, 25 August 2009 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Gig Category==<br />
<br />
The categories page seems flooded with Gigs sections and I was thinking perhaps "Gigs" could simply be a category and then in that category there would be all the existing categories relating to gigs. Does that make any sense? --[[User:EmilyWine|EmilyWine]] 03:15, 24 June 2010 (BST)</div>EmilyWinehttp://musewiki.org/index.php?title=User:EmilyWine&diff=61170User:EmilyWine2010-06-22T01:40:48Z<p>EmilyWine: </p>
<hr />
<div>Not quite sure what to write here....<br />
<br />
So here my contributions:<br />
<br />
I created this... [took me ages to type up]:<br />
[[Are Muse Cracking Up? (20010310 NME article)]]<br />
And linked to it on the NME Magazine page.<br />
<br />
Meanwhile, I added some of the unknown dates to the NME articles (the 100-page NME Muse magazine helped me tons with that).<br />
<br />
I edited out the grammar and spelling mistakes here: [[Kerrang 2002-06-22 – The dark side of Matt Bellamy]]<br />
<br />
I created the [[Kate Hudson]] page.<br />
Uploaded the file of Kate Hudson and Matthew Bellamy walking together.</div>EmilyWinehttp://musewiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Matthew_Bellamy&diff=61169Talk:Matthew Bellamy2010-06-22T01:35:10Z<p>EmilyWine: /* Last name */</p>
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<div>==Attire==<br />
perhaps there should be a section on that red tracksuit matt always wears? --[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 20:13, 16 April 2007 (BST)<br />
<br />
<br />
==Ab7==<br />
Is a chord not a note, I don't believe he hit a chord on his own...<br />
:good point, maybe the 7th Ab is meant?... --[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 21:26, 26 February 2007 (GMT)<br />
::That's what's meant. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 21:29, 26 February 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::Perhaps someone should check this? The 7th Ab is at the very top of the piano (the piano starts at 0 so maybe it's a miscount). I pride myself on being able to hit everything Matt sings so, unless there is a background vocal I haven't heard, I'm pretty sure it's not a 7Ab. <br>Here is a link showing the piano and it's octaves [http://scc.losrios.edu/~pankras/FreqsStaffPiano.jpg]<br> --[[User:Timoty|Timoty]]<br />
::::The fact is lifted from the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Matthew_Bellamy Wikipedia discussion page], which was/is incredibly detailed. The consensus there seems to be the 7th A flat. I do have a piano by the way :P --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 02:35, 1 March 2007 (GMT)<br />
::From the way I read it, it was vaugely determined to be the 7th A flat. I am not doubting the fact that it's super high, but I am sure it's more around the 6th, not the 7th (which is rediculously high anyway). Then again, I might just have my keyboard octave placement confused. I'm just trying to be thourough. --[[User:Timoty|Timoty]]<br />
<br />
==pictures links?==<br />
i think the pictures used for the sections should be linked to the pages so that when you click on them it takes you to the page rather than the image because it took me a while to work out that i had to click on the text! --[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 02:13, 14 February 2007 (GMT)<br />
:i think i will start implementing this<br />
<br />
::I dont think you should, musewiki uses a similar (if not exactly the same) style as wikipedia, and new users could get confused when they try to look at a better quality image and find themselves on another page they didn't want [[User:Robinflight|Robinflight]] 15:31, 13 September 2009 (BST)<br />
<br />
==crazy kids==<br />
whats the image for the crazy kids section about? --[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 02:13, 14 February 2007 (GMT)<br />
<br />
It's the back of the US Muscle Museum single, in which the photo was taken at the Big Sunday gig. [[User:Alex G|Alex G]] 07:37, 7 June 2007 (BST)<br />
<br />
==bigger==<br />
This place needs to be alot bigger.<br />
<br />
Not an image fest though<br />
<br />
==merging==<br />
How about merging what me know about Bellamy? ie. pages such as the sock fetish & his "Jet Pack". -[[User:Tene|Tene]]<br />
<br />
Does he actually play the recorder? [[User:Dai|Dai]] 20:11, 5 September 2006 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Matt's banana fetish==<br />
And he really digs bananas...<br />
<br />
[[Image:http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/3785/bananamanad7.jpg]]<br />
<br />
==Recorder==<br />
Hey, Crazybobbles, Matt doesn't play recorder. And is the 'plays with himself' bit supposed to be a little inside joke? ;) [[User:StuCorciM|StuCorciM]] 16:27, 10 September 2006 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Last name==<br />
Is "Bellamy" pronounced "bell-AH-mee" or "bell-uh-MEE"? Just wondering. --[[User:Salty|Salty]] 04:00, 29 September 2006 (BST)<br />
:Or "BELL-uh-mee"? (She meekly adds a year later... So if someone has discovered the answer to this, I'd love to know.) --[[User:Terpsichore|Terpsichore]] 23:35, 7 October 2007 (BST)<br />
::I believe it's "bell-ah-mee" (no emphasis on any particular part of the name) but I'm not sure... If you say it quickly enough, noone seems to pay any mind -[[User:EmilyWine|EmilyWine]] 02:35, 22 June 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Spelt wrong!==<br />
MAT SPELLS HIS NAME "MAT"! WITH ONE "T"!! IT'S SPELLED WRONG EVERYWHERE ON THE SITE!!!! ZOMFG!!!!!<br />
http://www.musewiki.org/Image:Demo_II.jpg<br />
LOOK!!!!!!<br />
[[User:Salty|Salty]] 02:10, 4 October 2006 (BST)<br />
:Actually, I checked two of my CD's (i.e. Showbiz), and it says: Piano/Vocals/Guitar - Matt (<- So I'm guessing maybe the above is a mistake?). --[[User:Jaidev|jaidev]] 09:29, 11 October 2006 (BST)<br />
:And um, that could have been a typo on the casette thingy. It's more likely that to be a typo than on the CDs. [[User:Li10|Li10]]<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
Severe lack of references here. There're loads of unreferenced "facts" that are not easily verifiable. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 21:04, 21 March 2007 (GMT)<br />
<br />
==Flow==<br />
This article is a bit random bit here-random bit there ish. It needs more flow, without being at the expense of excessive adjective use or bias. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 21:04, 21 March 2007 (GMT)<br />
<br />
== conspiracies ==<br />
<br />
someone should do a page with all of matt's bizarre conspiracies like:<br />
9/11, H.A.A.R.P., new world order, exo politics (that's right! here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyOBqDs65BA)<br />
and so on<br />
:What exactly is so bizzare about them?[[User:Solus|Solus]] 04:04, 5 April 2008 (BST)<br />
<br />
== Mellotron ==<br />
<br />
I just received MM single CD2 today and realised that Matt plays the Mellotron. Is it worth putting it in his instruments or not because its basically like a piano. Cheers --[[User:Eheheh1000|Gilly]] 16:51, 30 April 2008 (BST)<br />
<br />
== first memory ==<br />
<br />
I was just re-reading this page, and noticed something strange about Matt's memory of the broken mirror.. how can this be his first memory if it occurred one year before his parents' divorce, which was when he was 13-14? not really important i know, but still, there's something wrong in here.<br />
<br />
== :S ==<br />
<br />
Hey<br />
I'd like to write a mail to Matt<br />
But I don't have his mail...<br />
Can I Have it?^^<br />
<br />
:Qua@aol.com, but as the page on the Wiki says, there's o point contacting it. . . --[[User:Muserism|Muserism]] 19:20, 8 January 2010 (GMT)<br />
<br />
== Facebook ==<br />
<br />
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?filter=lf#/photo.php?pid=4732354&id=63737395119&fbid=233492370119<br />
Does anyone know if this Facebook page is valid? I know that there's hundreds of fan-made Matt pages, but this one is making some rather bombastic claims that I've never seen aMuser make before, so if someone could check it out that'd be great thanks! --[[User:Muserism|Muserism]] 04:00, 8 January 2010 (GMT)<br />
<br />
<br />
It's real. There's a link to it on Muse.mu, in the Links section. [[User:RockyBlackstar|Stay safe, kids!]] 23:59, 20 January 2010 (GMT)<br />
<br />
== Moltrasio, Como, Italy ==<br />
<br />
does anyone of you know if Matt is going to leave his home in Moltrasio after he left Gaia??--[[User:Martino|Martino]] 19:32, 22 January 2010 (GMT)<br />
<br />
Doubt it. Highly. [[User:RockyBlackstar|Stay safe, kids!]] 23:50, 29 January 2010 (GMT)<br />
<br />
== Smoking ==<br />
I found [http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=329370392458&ref=ts This Group] on FB. Does Matt skoke?? I know that only Chris smokes... but I don't know...--[[User:Martino|Martino]] 12:18, 27 February 2010 (GMT)<br><br />
I found [http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1670076655?bctid=68642781001 This Video].... I tink it's just a joke--[[User:Martino|Martino]] 20:04, 2 March 2010 (GMT)<br />
:Why do you think it's just a joke when there's a video of him saying he started smoking again and does it on camera?:S --[[User:Muserism|Muserism]] 00:22, 4 March 2010 (GMT)<br />
From the NME magazine [http://www.museabuse.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=17891&fullsize=1 here] Dom seems to think it's only a joke. -[[User:Musekreak|Musekreak]]<br />
<br />
== B4 in Exo-Politics? ==<br />
<br />
The article says Matt's highest "full voice" note is B♭4... correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't he hit B4 in the last line of Exo-Politics?<br />
<br />
Could someone with musical expertise confirm this please? :)<br />
<br />
:That part sounds to me like he's hitting an A4, as far as I can tell playing along to the lead vocal line. The song's in D minor and that part is over an A major chord, so B4 wouldn't really sound right there anyway. --[[User:Dyingatheist|Dyingatheist]] 16:41, 5 March 2010 (GMT)<br />
<br />
== New Girlfriend? ==<br />
does anyone know something more about Kate Hudson and Matt?? http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/3011238/It-Muse-be-love-for-Kate-Hudson.html --[[User:Martino|Martino]] 11:23, 13 June 2010 (BST)<br />
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I've read that Kate attended the gig at the Stade de France and that someone saw them walking in Paris like lovers do. Here is the link, sorry it's written in french: http://fr.news.yahoo.com/5/20100614/ten-kate-hudson-en-couple-avec-matthew-b-e95f385.html<br />
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I have found this film: http://uk.eonline.com/videos/v54526_.html<br />
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Here we can see that Matt meet Kate and unfortunately he smokes -.-</div>EmilyWinehttp://musewiki.org/index.php?title=User:EmilyWine&diff=61166User:EmilyWine2010-06-22T00:05:22Z<p>EmilyWine: Created page with 'Not quite sure what to write here.... So here my contributions: I created this... [took me ages to type up]: Are Muse Cracking Up? (20010310 NME article) I edited out the …'</p>
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I edited out the grammar and spelling mistakes here: [[Kerrang 2002-06-22 – The dark side of Matt Bellamy]]<br />
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I created the [[Kate Hudson]] page.</div>EmilyWinehttp://musewiki.org/index.php?title=MuseWiki:Community_portal&diff=61164MuseWiki:Community portal2010-06-21T21:28:06Z<p>EmilyWine: /* New category */</p>
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==Weird Site Notice on my Stalklist==<br />
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Is anyone else seeing this? [[User:7|7]] 04:00, 27 October 2008 (GMT)<br />
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==Suggestions!==<br />
Hi, everyone! My former wiki's having some sort of crisis so I decided to check back here, and I found that Dom and Chris's articles are simply atrocious compared to Matt's. Does any one mind if this article becomes more like Matt's (with a little gallery at the end and whatnot). And what if we make a little table with all the member's info, like one of the songboxes, but with their info and whatnot. I wouldn't mind putting it together! :D [[User:7|7]] 21:29, 25 October 2008 (BST)<br />
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Something like this? (You can play with the color/labels/whatever) [[User:7|7]] 21:37, 25 October 2008 (BST)<br />
:yeah like this idea :) do it! --[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 12:09, 27 October 2008 (GMT)<br />
::Coolies. see here: [[Template:MuseMember]] -- [[User:7|7]] 00:44, 4 November 2008 (GMT)<br />
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==A bug?==<br />
What happened [[Nantes Olympic 1999 (gig)|here]]?... [[User:7|7]] 19:09, 11 July 2008 (BST)<br />
:There's no link to that page from the gig listings, maybe it's a mistake of some kind that never got deleted. -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 21:13, 11 July 2008 (BST)<br />
::Could the same thing happen to the whole site if 'bobbles purges the history logs? - [[User:7|7]] 22:25, 11 July 2008 (BST)<br />
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==Sidebar '''Songs''' Link==<br />
As you probably already know, the '''Songs''' link on the sidebar leads to [[:Category:Songs]]. Some have suggested that it be changed so it leads to the [[Song Anthology]]. Some have even suggested that the link lead to a disambiguation page, allowing the people to choose how they want the list displayed. To finally settle the matter, let's have the <s>first</s> second-ever MuseWiki vote:<br />
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*{{yes}} --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:27, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
*{{yes}} [[User:Z|Z]] 00:21, 24 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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*{{yes}} [[User:7|7]] 06:23, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
*{{yes}} --[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 13:07, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
*{{yes}} -[[User:Regret Tenenbaum|Regret Tenenbaum]] 19:45, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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*{{yes}} -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 22:55, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
*{{yes}}--[[User:Susurr0|Susurr0]] 12:26, 25 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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:No (to the proposed change). I added the anthology to the front page despite thinking it's worthless for navigation purposes. For a navigation menu however, I wouldn't approve.<br />
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And secondly don't say "some say". That is sophism at its most vile. That's what Faux News and the like use for saying "I say". --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:24, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
::It wasn't sophism. The "some" he referred to in the first instance was me, and the "some" in the second instance was Sursurr0. That said, having thought about it a little more practically (as opposed to aesthetically), I think a disambiguation would be better, even if only as a compromise. -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 22:55, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
:::In which case state who or how many it is. "Some" has the ambiguity of implying at least a few people. You might think "two say" wouldn't have the same effect, which would be the point.<br />
:::As for this second proposal, it would be easier to have a link to the anthology in the category page.<br />
:::Lastly, sorry for being a bit harsh, I'm in a ratty mood at the moment. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 23:17, 23 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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I'm undecided. A disambig page would be superfluous though as a link to the other song page can be used. If we can clear up the excess of riffs that have their own song pages I'd say keep things the way they are. [[User:۞|۞]]<br />
:agreed the riffs thing definitely needs sorting out. maybe a tidied up alphabetical list page would be better than the category page? i think more information about each song is needed rather than just the names, which is why i like the anthology page but i do see what Tene is saying about navigation--[[User:Wilfio|Wilfio]] 12:33, 7 July 2008 (BST)<br />
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===Well, that seems long enough, I think...===<br />
Everyone who will vote seems to have voted... so the Anthology it is! (Unless someone wants to appeal their case...?) [[User:7|7]] 00:09, 25 June 2008 (BST)<br />
:I think 2 days is a little soon. Give it the rest of the week, at least. -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 00:13, 25 June 2008 (BST)<br />
::Sure, but it seems to me like everyone who is going to vote already has... [[User:7|7]] 04:48, 25 June 2008 (BST)<br />
:::You haven't even layed out the ''reason'' for changing it yet. What advantage does the anthology have for navigation over an alphabetical list? Unreasoned preferences are inconsequential. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 09:01, 25 June 2008 (BST)<br />
::::The main benefits of the anthology are:<br />
*It doesn't lump all the proper tracks in with the riffs, the old tracks that were played during Battle of the Bands etc. and remixes.<br />
*It's more consistent with the rest of the sidebar, since they all link to proper pages instead of category pages.<br />
*It's simply ''prettier''.<br />
If I missed anything, feel free to append. Now, it'd only be fair if you said why you don't want to change it, I think. -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 12:19, 25 June 2008 (BST)<br />
:::::It's alphabetical and therefore easier to navigate, for both those who have no knowledge of the period in which the song they're navigating to was composed and those who know the song titles well.<br />
:::::How often do people search for songs within a period as opposed to a song by its name? If someone wants to know about a period, then it's quite easy to go to the front page and click on "song anthropology", plus there's a link ''right at the top of the category page''.<br />
:::::Also, when did the rule by majority arrive here and why wasn't I informed? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 12:44, 25 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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==Adsense on musewiki, yay or nay?==<br />
Have your say on the idea of deploying ads on musewiki, more details on the situation can be found at the [[MuseWiki:News|updates page]]<br />
:Well, I can't say I'm too fond of ads, though so long as ... they're text only, and stay text only; people can block them if they so wish; the money goes into server expenses rather than your back pocket ... that wouldn't be so bad ;) --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:50, 14 October 2007 (BST)<br />
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:I say NAY! What's the point? How are ads beneficial for the site? [[User:7|7]] 23:57, 18 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
::Err...cash? / [[User:Time Q|Time Q]] 19:19, 23 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::Oh... good point... I SAY YAY! [[User:7|7]] 22:11, 23 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::I hate to flip-flop, But after careful consideration, I have changed my mind. '''''I SAY NAY!''''' In truth, ads suck...and they suck bad. I don't want the purity of our wiki to be corrupted by the hydra-headed corporate monster (to put it lightly). But, 'bobbles, (is it OK that I address you so informally?) if you really need the money that badly, then yes. [[User:7|User:]] 01:40, 26 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
::::Nah I don't need the money at all, I can't do ads anyway, lets just say somebody made £200 back in the days from crazybobbles.org and was never allowed back into the realms that is adsense la la, but that story is for another day! --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 20:32, 27 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
==Wanted (psuedo-ToDo) in order of priority==<br />
*People to go through gigs that have not happened yet and fill in the gig box, referencing the ticket sale pages. It's a bit late when the gig has passed! **This is particularly suited to those who speak the language of the country the concert takes place in.<br />
*Scans of tickets, old (and new) set lists, preferably with points of reference but also from memory.<br />
**Badger old-school Muse fans that you know!<br />
*People (especially native speakers of the articles' language) to '''transcribe''' - as accurately as possible - written '''articles'''/features and audio/video '''interviews'''. Of course this goes for English ones too ;)<br />
*Someone (especially of the musically inclined) to go through recordings and suss out differences within songs over time and then writing a clean summary with understandable details on the song pages.<br />
**These summaries should be under a <nowiki>====Live====</nowiki> header<br />
**The details should be ... '''detailed''' ... but also '''accessible''' to those who don't understand technobabble.<br />
*Proper articles on each album, a la the [[Black Holes and Revelations (album)|Black Holes and Revelations]] album. This will become easier as more transcriptions are added to our [[Media archive|media reference archive]].<br />
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Suggestions for refining, rewording or adding to this ToDo list are very welcome. I might make this official and make a (somewhat) inconspicuous link to it on the front page if no one objects soon - particularly our resident benevolent dictator. ;) --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 02:25, 11 October 2007 (BST)<br />
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:Sounds like a good idea. I'm glad that this wiki gets edited a bit more often now compared to the last weeks. Let me think about it, maybe I'll come up with some other points. What immediately comes to my mind, however, are small "fun" articles like [[Ultimate]]. Isn't there a MediaWiki feature to list the shortest articles? I think we could find quite a few unnecessary articles and such which need rewriting. Oh, and we need a more standard way of presenting information on certain topics. Gig pages are good, so are the album templates, but there are many articles without any concept or categories. I think a goal would be to have a suitable category for every topic (= article). And another point, what about some templates such as "This article needs expansion", "this article contains POV" and such? Okay, maybe we would need more active users for this. / [[User:Time Q|Time Q]] 21:11, 12 October 2007 (BST)<br />
::"'''Okay, maybe we would need more active users for this'''": Quite ;) Although a "Pure bullshit" category for the more ''obvious'' "humour" wouldn't be such a bad idea. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:50, 14 October 2007 (BST)<br />
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==Using dates/Muse News==<br />
Where shall we add Muse news? (Latest News page is for Wiki news, but where Muse News?)<br />
Thanks for new Muse Latest News page and Link in Main Menu, if possible. Thanks says 7steffen.<br />
:I problem with news is that its not really good for wikis, however, I'm thinking about doing an article for each month so August 2006. This should contain all articles that relate to muse and if they're not article quality, they can simply be added onto the page as news. What does everyone think? --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]]<br />
::Right, I'm going to start putting this date thing into play, the way this is going to work is to make sure that every date we use includes the month and year so eventually we can use the "what links here" button to collate each month into a calender type thing if that makes sense. have a look at this months stuff @ [[September 2006]] if you're still a bit confused --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 02:35, 6 September 2006 (BST)<br />
:::Ok, I've had a go with the top bit and it looks ok, but I'm not sure whether this is the best way forward so I'll defintiely need some feedback on the whole idea and all. --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 02:46, 6 September 2006 (BST)<br />
::::Right I've got a feed section going on now, whats left to do is for someone to help style this baby into the main page, I'm going to create a sort of mirror of the main page and lets hope someone can do an awesome redesign of the page. Heres the feed:<br />
<feed items="6" showtitle="false" showdesc="false">http://www.muse.mu/rss.php</feed><br />
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==Should there be a rules page for the wiki?==<br />
I think its time we should set up a rules and regulations page, dedicated for conventions and stuff people should or should not do. I see Tene is getting quite pissed with people's POV on articles. I agree that this needs to stop as we really dont need it. This also includes the new naming conventions as well.<br />
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==Colour coding for template boxes==<br />
Right I think there should be different colours for different types of boxes, this will make it much more easier to distinguish and all. I'd like blue to be for songs and green for gigs, not sure about the others, what do you think? --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 19:01, 6 September 2006 (BST)<br />
:I believe it was green before the disaster ... I'm all for the gigs template being green, it looked good then. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 01:02, 30 October 2006 (GMT)<br />
::Good idea, but why do songs, singles, albums, EPs and DVDs have the same colour? Why only gigs have a different colour?<br />
::: Yeah, I was meaning to get the albumbox converted to discobox and change the colour scheme, right now its Gigs = Green, Songs = Blue and Disco = Purple. Not sure about the purple atm, so feel free to suggest different colours (give html colour codes if possible) --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 17:55, 30 October 2006 (GMT) <br />
::By the way, this is not exactly about their colour but adding a new box for videos, what do you think? --[[User:Susurr0|Susurr0]] 16:02, 30 October 2006 (UTC+2)<br />
:::Sounds good, just I'll start one up, but its best to get the fields correct before we start rolling out --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 17:55, 30 October 2006 (GMT)<br />
::::OK, lets see: name, album?, length, year, recorded (when and where?), director, release... what do you think? did I miss something? And a suggestion, if you're going to create the box, I think we should create an article for each video version, because if we don't, how could we put the info for both videos in the box? (sorry if you don't understand me very good)--[[User:Susurr0|Susurr0]] 22:58, 30 October 2006 (UTC+2)<br />
:::::Hello there. I see there's a "Year" field on the discobox, but it's not shown on the page! Most albums specify the year on the Release Date, but singles don't. Any solutions? Thanks. --[[User:Tana|Tana]] 20:52, 14 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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==E-mail confirmation required to edit==<br />
I just created an account, but when I tried to edit pages, it gave this error message:<br />
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:You must confirm your e-mail address before editing pages. Please set and validate your e-mail address through your user [[Special:Preferences|preferences]].<br />
:Return to [[MuseWiki]].<br />
It's not a big problem, but when registering, some page told me that I didn't need to validate to edit stuff. I clicked the link in the e-mail, and now everything works fine.[[User:VDZ|VDZ]] 19:37, 4 June 2007 (BST)<br />
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==& in article title==<br />
I just made an article called [[Mucke & Mehr (online)]] but there seem to be problems with the '&' in the name. What to do? The text I uploaded to this page (and also to [[Interview (200005 Mucke & Mehr article)|this]] page) seems to be lost. / [[User:Time Q|Time Q]] 12:01, 20 June 2007 (BST)<br />
:Ampersands on this wiki is a big big no-no. Just use "and" in the title instead. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 17:16, 20 June 2007 (BST)<br />
::Okay, thanks for correcting it, didn't know how to do this. / [[User:Time Q|Time Q]] 17:31, 20 June 2007 (BST)<br />
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==Recorders==<br />
Would anyone object to a section about prominent recorders? I think it would be beneficial, but the idea does seem a bit arse-kissing-y to me. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 20:58, 21 June 2007 (BST)<br />
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==Naming riffs and jams==<br />
Any convention on how jams should be named? For example, there was that jam often played before Sunburn (e.g. [[Osaka WTC Open Air Stadium 2000 (gig)]]) now revived. Some of the jams might even deserve their own page, like the Osaka Jam or Jimmy Jam... --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 10:30, 20 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:The only way I see of doing that is asking for suggestions on Muselive or another forum. I don't think we should have one page per improvisation, I suggest having them all on one page. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 11:09, 20 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
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==Gear template==<br />
Can anyone more knowledgeable with MediaWiki and wiki syntax create a template for guitars? (much like the ones for gigs) As for the options: wood(s), body covering, pickup(s) (or bridge and neck separate), electronics, and special circuits. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 10:59, 23 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:Ended up doing it myself at [[Template:Guitarbox]]. Enjoy. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 04:51, 25 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
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==Namespace==<br />
What do you think of the idea of using namespaces for gigs? So instead of [[London Earls Court Exhibition Centre 2004 - 20th (gig)]], it'd be [[Gig:London Earls Court Exhibition Centre 2004 - 20th]]. Easier to organize and go through, I don't know about the implementation though ([http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces not just naming it with Gig, but having MediaWiki recognize it as a different namespace]). --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 21:44, 25 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:I'm pretty sure you need to be able to edit the MediaWiki installation itself to implement that, which I can't do. Seems like a good idea though. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:00, 25 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
::Any idea where crazybobbles is? --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 22:46, 25 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::Well, he's still alive. I posted in his shout box on last.fm yesterday but he didn't reply. He replied to someone else's shout though. :P --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:51, 25 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
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==Equipment used==<br />
Do you think adding "guitar/bass" used for each song in the setlist is going a bit too far? Just a thought. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 23:53, 30 November 2007 (GMT)<br />
:I think a simple <nowiki><br/><small>{{{guit}}}|{{{gpage}}}]][[{{{bass}}}|{{{bpage}}}]]</small></nowiki> would be best for the template. Once conditionals get installed we could use them. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 07:47, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:Oh and maybe append piano details manually afterwards if a piano was used? Or include that without a link so we can use <nowiki>{{{piano|}}}</nowiki> so it doesn't appear if there's no piano defined. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 07:51, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::I did it like [[Template:GU|this]] instead. Most flexible IMO. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 07:54, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::Problem is with that, if we ever decided to improve upon the layout we'd have to go through all the pages to do so. Seperating style/layout from information is generally a good thing. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 07:56, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::::That sorta misses the whole point of using this template though... --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 08:01, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::::Why? Templates are so that the information is adaptable and the style doesn't need re-writing every time. Please take a look at [[:Template:GUexp]] and comment on it. It's much simpler than my earlier proposal. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 08:12, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::::::I suppose this could work if we, at some point, decide to have different colors for different gear or something... Dunno, just seems like a lot of work, and harder to apply each time without referring to examples. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 08:15, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::::::(edit: also, less intuitive when it comes to adding commas, notes, and stuff... --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 08:19, 10 December 2007 (GMT))<br />
::::::::Commas can't be included with the template until we get conditionals. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 08:20, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::::::::Yeah I think due to that it would do more harm than good (we'd end up with extraneous commas when commas are added to the template). When we get the extension installed we can work some wizadry then. At that time, we can use an #if, print the new template if any of the vars are defined else print the old template. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 08:52, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::::::::::So, we use [[Template:GU]] for now? --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 09:05, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::::::::::Yeah. Btw, does the version with superscript look better to you? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 09:08, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:Hmm, too much spacing? Since it is done in templates, we could always control the margin size on the <nowiki><small></nowiki> tag instead. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 09:15, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::Nevermind about 'too much spacing' comment, I just realized it's the same spacing, just closer to the song name. Margin size comment stays though. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 09:20, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:::Which margin? Bottom? I thought the disproportionally large bottom margin made it more readable... ---[[User:Tene|Tene]] 09:23, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::::I was thinking the margin after the equipments was slightly too large, but seeing it again, it looks alright. Either it's good, or I just gotten used to it :D. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 09:29, 10 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
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==Different logo==<br />
Did anybody else notice that ''OOS'' (and its singles/EPs) has a different Muse logo from most instances? Do we have any other instances like that we could maybe note? (one I can think about at the moment is the proper release of ''Random 1-8'') --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 21:53, 16 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
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==New category==<br />
How's the idea of having a category named "People"? Makes searching for people easier imo. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] 02:50, 23 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
:I have no preference, but do we really have enough articles about people to make it useful? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 10:15, 24 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
::Perhaps we do... but how'd we file the band members... still under Muse right? 'People' would perhaps refer to producers, tom kirk, gaia... any more? [[User:EmilyWine|EmilyWine]] 22:28, 21 June 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Anti-waffle brigade==<br />
I came across [http://www.plainenglish.co.uk this "Simple English Campaign"]. I've found it of use, there are simple alternatives I hadn't even thought about in years. :P Their alternative words list might help us avoid adding opinion, unnecessary waffle or just going up our own proverbial arses. Pardon my French. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 10:15, 24 December 2007 (GMT)<br />
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==Decluttered discobox test alert==<br />
See [[Uno (single)]].<br />
*Does it work in your browser<br />
*Does it look good<br />
*Is it intuitive<br />
:It ''works'' in Webkit, KHTML and Gecko (Firefox), if someone with IE6 &/or 7 could take a look, that'd be grand. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 19:05, 25 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
::IE7 works fine! [[User:7|User:]] 02:35, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::Good, thank you. Now all that's needed is confirmation that the text still shows in IE6. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 11:14, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:If we get the conditionals installed we could do something like this included in the template:<br />
:<nowiki><!--[if lt IE 7]></nowiki><br/><br />
<nowiki>HovStatus(HovEffect)</nowiki><br/><br />
<nowiki>hov = document.getElementByClass("col");</nowiki><br/><br />
<nowiki>hov.firstChild.style.display = HovEffect;</nowiki><br/><br />
<nowiki><![endif]--></nowiki><br/><br/><br />
<nowiki><!--[if lt IE 7]>onmouseover="HovStatus('inline')<![endif]--></nowiki><br />
:for IE6. Until then it'd just display inline all the time. The conditionals would be needed to make a template for the whole thing, not for that IE specific code. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 14:56, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
::::I personally don't think hovers are a good idea, the fancy one's use the <code>:hover</code> css and allow a bit of time to go back, I think a better idea would be to stick to collapsible tables to store additional information since click on something to show additional information is a better method. --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 15:26, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::::Well in that case at least make sure the default (if the browser has JS disabled) is uncollapsed. ''tsk tsk I hate JS'' --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 15:35, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::::Hm, there's something strange here. When client CSS is disabled, the collapsible tables appear in plain text, but when CSS is enabled, it's permanently collapsed? It should use javascript to make it collapsed to begin with. Any idea how to do that? The code in Commons.js is huge. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 16:26, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
It stopped working, along with all the previous versions. sorry. [[User:7|User:]] 19:43, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:Can you check whether it's working again now please? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 19:48, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
::Ooh... sory for the late reply... It works fine now, thanks! ...But the tabs at the top of all of the pages (article, talk, edit, history...) have gone blank (all I see is the text and the colored outline)... probably unrelated, but I just wanted to make sure it was known. [[User:7|User:]] 21:03, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::Try a hard refresh. Ctrl+Shift+R I think. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 21:16, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
::::It works! Thanks! [[User:7|User:]] 21:20, 26 January 2008 (GMT) <br />
:One minor fault in IE7, just asthaetic, the revelead text variably has bullet points (or half bullet points :S) in the adjacent column of the table. And the main page doesn't display right in Opera, the Muse in the news and other boxes have been shifted below the images. [[User:۞|۞]] 22:45, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
::Any better now? Otherwise I've no idea. I really, really hate IE. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:52, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::No change...maybe a subtle link to Firefox on the main page will do. [[User:۞|۞]] 23:58, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
::::That would be a good idea regardless. But I changed list-style to list-style-type, does that seem to work in IE7? I'm off for the night anyway. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 00:11, 27 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::::[http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee281/krwling/unosingle.jpg Uno single], [http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee281/krwling/musewiki.jpg Main page], and [http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee281/krwling/Untitled.jpg BHAR TEST A] on IE7. [[User:Z|Z]] 05:53, 27 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::::[http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee281/krwling/untitled-1.jpg Uno single] on IE6. [[User:Z|Z]] 00:21, 28 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
=="This Week in Muse History" Section==<br />
Seems like too much of an unnecessary bother. As the idiot who hatched this idea, I vote against it, but I'd like to know the opinion of others. [[User:7|User:]] 02:45, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:: I vote against it too tbh, anything that requires weekly labour is a bad idea haha. I suppose it would be a good idea to change it to month and perhaps have a months page so things are easy to collate in future (so you only need to do this 12 times and the next year you just add new stuff in). There is a lot of potential for something awesome to happen here but it's probably going to take more effort than it's worth.<br />
::My suggest would be to have a "did you know" section, we can easily make use of the random function and just write quite a lot of trivial about the band that would prove useful for everyone. That way not only is it ever changing, it's self managed AND would be a good idea to promote other pages. --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 13:31, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
:::Sounds good. [[User:7/Main Page Project]] can be used a testing ground. [[User:7|User:]] 19:28, 26 January 2008 (GMT)<br />
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==Whoa!!!==<br />
I'm not sure if it's just the pure terribleness of IE, but the logo has disappeared except for "MuseWiki" and "BETA".<br />
[[User:7|User:]] 03:03, 4 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
:Yup, i removed it, kinda got extremely sick of the icon so I ditched it and stuck with the text and beta sign. Thought it looked quite cool now tbh, but yeah, still kinda in limbo of what to logoerise the site as. these things are tough :( --[[User:Crazybobbles|crazybobbles]] 20:29, 4 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
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==Flushing image thumbnail caches==<br />
Anyone here know how to do it? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 22:21, 6 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
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==Parser functions and drop down template==<br />
Thanks to Crazybobbles, parser functions are now installed. Take a look [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions here] if you're interested. Feel free to adapt templates and make more using said functions.<br />
<br />
Also, I wrote [[Template:Drop]], for drop downs. Plus cite has been merged and [[Template:GU]] can be used in a more dynamic fashion, all making use of the parser funcions. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 09:15, 11 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
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==Elegance==<br />
We really need to brainstorm how to make everything neater. Looking at pages (whilst editing) is just hurting my head. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 09:41, 11 February 2008 (GMT)<br />
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== Gear ==<br />
Don't all (or most) of the members play synthesizers? --[[User:S.Örvarr.S|Stefán Örvarr Sigmundsson]] 04:31, 25 March 2008 (GMT)<br />
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== The video nav is brokeded==<br />
<br />
It goes Starlight then Knights then Starlight in a never ending loop that never reaches Invincible. Help? [[User:Neon-Symmetry|Neon-Symmetry]] 21:31, 14 April 2008 (BST)<br />
:Un-brokeded! [[User:7|7]] 00:14, 15 April 2008 (BST)<br />
== Tabs ==<br />
Personally, I find [[Tablature]] horrible to navigate as one large alphabetical list, so I came up with an alternative largely based on the singles section of the discography. It can be seen [[User:Frozenjakalope/Tablature|here]]. What does everyone think? -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 12:53, 29 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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<br />
==Subtemplate convention==<br />
Currently the de-facto way of laying subtemplates is as so:<br />
<pre>{{template<br />
|var1<br />
|var2<br />
|var3<br />
{{subtemplate<br />
|var1<br />
|var2<br />
|var3<br />
}}<br />
}}</pre><br />
<br />
Which, to me, is a bit difficult to read, especially with complex layouts such as those in discography box templates. Take a look at the source of [[Black Holes and Revelations (album)|this page]] as an example.<br />
<br />
So, I have a couple of alternative options that I'd appreciate comments on.<br />
<br />
<pre>{{template<br />
|var1<br />
|var2<br />
|var3<br />
{{subtemplate|<br />
var1|<br />
var2|<br />
var3<br />
}}<br />
}}</pre><br />
<br />
...and...<br />
<br />
<pre>{{template<br />
|var1<br />
|var2<br />
|var3{{subtemplate|<br />
var1|<br />
var2|<br />
var3}}<br />
}}</pre><br />
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Which is most readable, the original, the first suggestion or the second suggestion?<br />
<br />
If either of the latter two are preferable, what should be done with sub-sub templates? Alternate between the pipe character being at the beginning and end, or have all sub-levels with it at the end? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 20:48, 17 May 2008 (BST)<br />
:Personally, I find the first one easier to read. -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 01:34, 18 May 2008 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Ah!? What is <i>THAT?!?!</i>==<br />
I was about to edit my stalklist when a peculliar advertisement slapped me in the face! What's this about "Bay area Wikipedians"??? seems like some Wikipedia advertisements have leaked their way onto MuseWiki!!! I checked with another site that's also "powered by MediaWiki" (as I suspected was the problem) and the ad was absent... so what's the matter? Is MuseWiki being encroached upon by Wikipedian spies?<br />
<br />
(It would be beneficial to check other sites that are "powered by MediaWiki" for the same problem to see if the problem is local, and your own stalklist pages to make sure I'm not going bonkers)<br />
<br />
[[User:7|7]] 02:44, 28 May 2008 (BST)<br />
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==Audio preview thingies==<br />
Perhaps we should switch to OGG Vorbis so as to take advantage of [https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Using_audio_and_video_in_Firefox HTML5 audio and video]? Obviously, it wouldn't be that simple, but as an idea: comments? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 07:39, 18 July 2009 (BST)<br />
:The lack of support in IE8 would be a problem, no? -[[User:Frozenjakalope|frozenjakalope]] 09:57, 18 July 2009 (BST)<br />
::Mm, perhaps falling back with some IE ifdef hackery to the current system would be apt ... I believe the other major browsers do support it, that is Chrome, Opera and Safari. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 10:01, 18 July 2009 (BST)<br />
<br />
== Media archive name ==<br />
<br />
Would anyone object to changing the name of our media archive to "reference archive"? The latter, I think, would be more accurate wrt its purpose. Any benefits to keeping it as "media archive", aside from that doing so would be less effort? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 15:43, 15 August 2009 (BST)<br />
:Makes sense. [[User:7|7]] 03:33, 16 August 2009 (BST)<br />
::M'kay, anyone else, before I go ahead? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 01:58, 17 August 2009 (BST)<br />
:::Well people might not understand what is meant by reference archive whereas media archive is self explanatory. People will go there because it is an organised archive of muse in the media and they may want to look up an article they once read/heard about. Calling it a reference archive IMO muddles it's purpose. {{WilfSig}} 11:31, 17 August 2009 (BST)<br />
== Media archive title convention ==<br />
<br />
What about ...<br/><br />
(''publication name'') yy-mm-dd—''title''<br/><br />
...as opposed to the current...<br/><br />
''title'' (yymmdd (''publication name'') article)<br />
<br />
====Example...====<br />
Now:<br/><br />
NME on Muse (19990220 NME article)<br/><br />
Suggestion:<br/><br />
NME 1999-02-20—NME on Muse<br/><br />
...'twould sort better than it does now. --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 02:00, 17 August 2009 (BST)<br />
:agreed. I'll leave it to you to rename them all though :P {{WilfSig}} 11:34, 17 August 2009 (BST)<br />
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== Appended bracketed types ==<br />
<br />
Does anyone think that they should be removed when a particular name has no more than one type (e.g., Screenager is a song, but nothing else, such as a single)? --[[User:Tene|Tene]] 01:25, 20 August 2009 (BST)<br />
:My preference is no, keep things as they are for consistancy and to save A LOT of redirect and and editing times. [[User:۞|Niall]] 03:07, 25 August 2009 (BST)</div>EmilyWinehttp://musewiki.org/index.php?title=NME_(magazine)&diff=61162NME (magazine)2010-06-21T20:03:08Z<p>EmilyWine: </p>
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<div>New Musical Express.<br />
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=== Muse front covers of NME ===<br />
*[[NME 2009-09-15 – Men at work | 2009-09-15: Men at work]]<br />
*[[New album preview (20090722 NME article)|2009-07-22: New album preview]]<br />
*[[Take A Bow (20080813 NME article)|2008-08-13: Take A Bow]]<br />
*[[The Road to Wembley (20070616 NME article)|2007-06-16: The Road to Wembley]]<br />
*[[25th November 2006 (NME cover)|2006-11-25]]<br />
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=== Muse features in NME magazine===<br />
*[[NME 2009-09-15 – Men at work | 2009-09-15: Men at work]]<br />
*[[New album preview (20090722 NME article)|2009-07-22: New album preview]]<br />
*[[Muse new album - first listen (20090707 NME article)|2009-07-07: Muse new album - first listen]]<br />
*[[2009/03/07? I'm not sure if the wind blowing my dress up would benefit our career - Matt: @NME awards.]] <br />
*[[Take A Bow (20080813 NME article)|2008-08-13: Take A Bow]]<br />
*[[We only want to put out singles and Best Of's from now on (20080315 NME article)|2008-03-15: We only want to put out singles and Best Of's from now on]]<br />
*[[MUSE: Wembley mega-gigs set for dual live releases (20080206 NME feature)|2008-02-06: MUSE: Wembley mega-gigs set for dual live releases]]<br />
*[[Interview (20080119 NME article)|2008-01-19]]<br />
*[[Matt Bellamy's all time plug-in heroes (20080105 NME article)|2008-01-05: Matt Bellamy's all time plug-in heroes]]<br />
*[[The Road to Wembley (20070616 NME article)|2007-06-16: The Road to Wembley]]<br />
*[[My week (20070531 NME feature)|2007-05-23: My week]]<br />
*[[Dom's guide to not going to the bog for three days and bottling rubbish bands (20070523 NME article)|2007-05-23: Dom's guide to not going to the bog for three days and bottling rubbish bands]]<br />
*[[Muse to turn Wembley shows into festivals (20070523 NME feature)|2007-05-23: Muse to turn Wembley shows into festivals]]<br />
*[[Magic mushrooms and drowning fantasies (20070309 NME feature)|2007-03-09: Magic mushrooms and drowning fantasies - Muse's chief prophet takes NME inside the strange world of 2007's Best British Band]]<br />
*[[NME goes inside the band's camp for the lowdown on the gigs of the century (20070228 NME feature)|2007-02-28: NME goes inside the band's camp for the lowdown on the gigs of the century]]<br />
*[["Let's Burn Down the Houses of Parliament!" (20061118 NME article)|2006-11-18: "Let's Burn Down the Houses of Parliament!" First Bono and friends saved the world, now Muse are ready to fire up the revolution.]]<br />
*[[First Look at Muse's Bizarre New Stage Show (20061111 NME article)|2006-11-11: First Look at Muse's Bizarre New Stage Show]]<br />
*[[Supermassive! The gig of the millenium (20060830 NME article)|2006-08-30: Supermassive! The Gig of the Millenium]]<br />
*[[Massive UFOs, inflatable lilos and a huge love of Orbital... Yep, NME's been talking to Matt Bellamy (20060824 NME article)|2006-08-24: Massive UFOs, inflatable lilos and a huge love of Orbital... Yep, NME's been talking to Matt Bellamy]]<br />
*[[Set the controls for the heart of the charts (20060722 NME article)|2006-07-22: Set the controls for the heart of the charts]]<br />
*[[Tune says party, words say die (20060527 NME article)|2006-05-27: Tune says party, words say die!]]<br />
*[[New songs review (NME article)|2006-05-17: New songs review]]<br />
*[[May 2006 Interview (NME article)|2006-05-17: Interview]]<br />
*[[Rocks 50 Greatest Heroes (20060510 NME article)|2006-05-10: Rocks 50 Greatest Heroes]]<br />
*[[New Muse songs leak (20050525 NME feature)|2005-05-25: New Muse songs leak]]<br />
*[[Fans given 'Absolution' by Muse (20030809 NME article)|2003-08-09: Fans given 'Absolution' by Muse]]<br />
*[[The fan-ish inquisition:Muse (20010616 NME feature)|2001-06-16: The fan-ish inquisition:Muse]]<br />
*[[Are Muse Cracking Up? (20010310 NME article)|2001-03-10: Are Muse Cracking Up?]]<br />
*[[Osaka gig review (200010 NME article)|2000-10-??: Osaka gig review]]<br />
*[[Heroes and villains (20000729 NME article)|2000-07-29: Heroes & villains]]—<br />
*[[Barfly session gig review (200006 NME article)|2000-06-??: Barfly session gig review]]<br />
*[[Muse of the World (200006 NME article)|2000-06-10: Muse of the World]]<br />
*[[Muse at London Shepherd's Bush Empire (200005 NME article)|2000-05-09: Muse at London Shepherd's Bush Empire]]<br />
*[[Article (200005 NME article)|2000-05-??: Article]]<br />
*[[Muse at New York Brownies (200004 NME article)|2000-04-??: Muse at New York Brownies]]<br />
*[[On the Couch (20000202 NME feature)|2000-02-02: On the Couch]]<br />
*[[Interview with Matthew Bellamy (200001 NME article)|2000-01-??: Interview with Matthew Bellamy]]<br />
*[[The first great British guitar band of the 21st century (199910 NME article)|1999-10-??: The first great British guitar band of the 21st century]]<br />
*[[Muse's Millenium (199912 NME article)|1999-12-??: Muse's Millenium]]<br />
*[[Showbiz review (199910 NME feature)|1999-10-02: Showbiz review]]<br />
*[[Muse live at Exeter Cavern (1999 NME article)|1999-06-23: Muse live at Exeter Cavern]]<br />
*[[Fierce Ponder! (19990710 NME article)|1999-07-10: Fierce Ponder!]]<br />
*[[On the Road With Muse and Cay (1999-06 NME article)|1999-06-??: On the Road With Muse and Cay]]<br />
*[[Bristol University review (1999-03 NME article)|1999-03-??: Bristol University review]]<br />
*[[NME 1999-02-20 – NME on Muse |1999-02-20: NME on Muse]]<br />
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== See also ==<br />
*[http://nme.com NME website]<br />
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{{Backto | media archive}}<br />
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[[Category:Magazines]]</div>EmilyWinehttp://musewiki.org/index.php?title=Are_Muse_Cracking_Up%3F_(20010310_NME_article)&diff=61161Are Muse Cracking Up? (20010310 NME article)2010-06-21T19:56:50Z<p>EmilyWine: Created page with 'The second time Matt Bellamy thought he was losing his mind was when he started eating maggots. It was the third day that Muse had spent naked together in the Jacuzzi and any hin…'</p>
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<div>The second time Matt Bellamy thought he was losing his mind was when he started eating maggots. It was the third day that Muse had spent naked together in the Jacuzzi and any hint of sanity had been blasted clean out of his brain by Mother Nature's finest grade magic mushrooms. His bandmates sat giggling in the bubbles as he watched the sliver of the mushroom in his palm morph from vegetable to worm, then started squirming wildly. He took a deep breath closed his eye, popped it in his mouth and started chewing.<br />
<br />
And instantly went deaf in one ear.<br />
<br />
"We were recording in Ridge Farm studios," Matt gibbers, gabbling furiously away as if puking words. "We finished the first five songs for the album and then we woke up in the morning and there was this field full of mushrooms right next to the studio. So we ate them all. We had to have everything remixed because we were all in a Jacuzzi together eating maggots. They did not into maggots and we're not really sure why that was."<br />
<br />
The first time Matt Bellamy thought he was losing his mind had been when the spikes started coming for him. It was midway through last year's gruelling festival tour through Europe, Japan and Australia and the strain was starting to show. He dyed his hair a different color every other day and painted the veins on his arms black "because it looked cool". These stage shows had become so destructive and unpredictable that Muse had been banned by eastern Europe’s biggest equipment hire company and eaten up most of the budget for their second album in trashed guitars and presidential suite orgies (in Japan they became notorious for entertaining as many of the locals at once as possible). At the end of one insane gig Matt got himself wedged inside one of the huge plastic cones of their stage set and had to roll under the drum riser until the crowd left the building, the Tasmanian devil meets Derek Smalls.<br />
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”I’m not sure it could go further than that,” Matt ponders. “It’s like death. You feel like time is running out and you’ve got to make a difference in the remaining moments you have onstage. It’s about squeezing in as much as you can before you go”.<br />
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<br />
Munching cold bacon in the palatial back room of a top secret barge studio on the Thames, where Muse are carving the final slashes into the neck of their second album, Matt, sweet yet sullen bassist Chris Wolstenholme and baby-faced booze-liking drummer Dominic Howard are relaxed, un-dyed, and thankfully fully clothed. They’re buoyant in anticipation of bringing the whole of creation to its knees when faced with their new single ‘Plug in Baby’ - Phantom of the Opera meets The Clash on Neptune - a surefire Number One-with-a-scud-misscile smasheroonie. But last summer, as their sci-fi grand punk blitzkrieg left a trail of blood, spunk and injured bouncers across the globe they were a musical and psychological time bomb, a band pushing the pedal through the metal, on a highway to hell straddling the back of madam Hedonism’s flaming Harley But in the end, man, it was the water that finally fucked them up.<br />
<br />
“I’ve got a problem with drinking water,” Matt confesses. “I’m not very good at it. When I first went out on tour I used to get dehydrated and I used to get these really bad headaches at this point here (points to the back of his head). I didn’t realise that it was because I wasn’t drinking. I remember I was having these strange hallucinations of this triangular blade, really silver metallic, razor sharp. I was in this landscape, completely arid, grey, dead, with an endless horizon; it’s like a bigger planet than this one because the horizon was so flat and it went on forever. The sky was baking blue, burning heat and I was in there trying to dodge these blades that were flying everywhere. One would always go and cut me right in there. And it wouldn’t cut my head, it’d just sort of go in and I could feel it cutting into my brain. It wouldn’t damage the exterior of my head. I used to have that recurring, it seemed like more than a dream to me, it seemed like it was really happening; it was with me during the day, travelling on planes, I couldn’t stop thinking about it.”<br />
<br />
I’d drink more water, mate.<br />
<br />
“I saw a programme on TV one night,” Matt continues, “and they were talking about Psywar, psychological warfare and the influences that governments have had over their populations in order to make them believe they’re having a war for the right reasons, things like that. How they can use mobile phones, they can use the microwaves inside the things to do stuff to us. I thought that was what was happening.”<br />
<br />
You thought the government was trying to control your brain through your mobile phone?<br />
<br />
“Not necessarily the government but I went through a number of different theories. It got to the point where I was thinking that maybe that’s what real life is like and this is all a dream. Then I thought it was one of the number of phobias I had and then I went to the doctor and he told me to drink more water and that was that.”<br />
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But it’s the obedience drugs in the water that they’re using to keep us down, brothers! Ahem, pass the Evian. Cheers.<br />
<br />
As Lee ‘Scartch’ Perry would tell you, the eagle of a genius he don’t come a-swoopin’ ‘less madness be his perch, my cauliflowers. And Matt Bellamy is a class-A, top-grade, split personality psycho-bastard top rock nutter in excelsis. A full year of on-the-road mayhem, plus a string of mid-table hits from the half-million-selling debut album, Showbiz, was like feeding the nervy, insecure mogwai Matt of ’99 medicine after midnight and unleashing the slavering, razor-toothed monster Matt. He considers himself to be some kind of mental cyborg-cum-Etch-A-Sketch who can erase all elements of his “bored and frustrated” pre-Muse personality and “download” a brand new one from passing acquaintances. His formative experiences involve throwing newbron baby chicks at a wall (“But only print that if you point out that I was six at the time”) and breaking the neck of wildfowl for 50p a time as a fetching boy on posho pheasant shoots. Onstage he treats his guitar like an escaping burglar and gets the Red Mist at the tiniest technical error. He’s a hardcore Hannibal, Norman Bates with a road crew, ‘’Seven’’ turned up to II.<br />
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Rather like the new Muse album as it happens. Furiously trying to gnaw its way out of the traps as we speak, it’s an expansive, explosive knacker-smack of a record that’ll leave the NAM veteran gawping in their exhaust dust, wondering where their eyebrows have gone. Previews of the completed (as yet untitled) tracks display a vista-scraping ambition that takes in a church organ grandeur, twinkly synth experimentation and chunks of rock that makes ‘’Deep Impact’’ look like ‘’Singing In The Rain’’. It’s Muse fulfilling every inch of gushing hype and more and its major thematic concerns are death, rioting, death, metal spikes in your brain, death, the ever circling conundrums of the universe, death, death, and death.<br />
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“I’ve written a song which I think I’m gonna call the ‘Thoughts Of A Dying Atheist’,” Bellamy announces. “I’m trying to imagine what it would be like to die in that situation, at that last moment, when you truly believe it is the end. I try to conjure up the thoughts that you’d be going through. I can’t find anything I can believe in, and that’s my problem. Any religion I can see the flaws very quickly. Also, even if it’s pure science everything that seems to be coming out of is anti-human. If we really wanted to evolve using science then we’d genetically redesign better creatures that could actually live in space and breathe other atmospheres. And fly. But the thing we were talking about is the death-bed one and it’s like, if that really is the end, you’d want to go back and have to most amoral existence you could ever have. So if that really is the case, why aren’t we all going wild?”<br />
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Okaaaay. But before we all strip naked, neck a bucket of heroin and go turkey-fucking in the streets, do you think Muse’s time has come?<br />
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Matt laughs: “Hyip-hyip-hyip! I hope not. I’m glad that we didn’t get big straight away. It’d be nice to experience what it was like being in a massive band, the biggest band ever, that’d be cool, but it’d be nicer to have earned it gradually because then you know how to enjoy it. It’s taken me a while to learn how to enjoy this. If it comes along now I’ll know what to do with it. Blow it all, that’s what it’s there for. If I get it, it’ll be for the purpose of burning it.”<br />
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Cling on tight because Muse are a star about to go supernova. Turn on, plug in, burn out.</div>EmilyWinehttp://musewiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:NME_(magazine)&diff=61159Talk:NME (magazine)2010-06-21T18:47:16Z<p>EmilyWine: </p>
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<div>Would someone be able to post last week's NME article? (I think it's the Nov. 25th issue?) Muse are on the cover again, as well. Thanks. (Can't easily get NME here in the U.S.)<br />
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How can we organize a list of all the past NME articles reprinted in the 100-page Muse NME special issue? [[User:EmilyWine|EmilyWine]] 19:47, 21 June 2010 (BST)</div>EmilyWinehttp://musewiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:NME_(magazine)&diff=61158Talk:NME (magazine)2010-06-21T17:57:13Z<p>EmilyWine: </p>
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<div>Would someone be able to post last week's NME article? (I think it's the Nov. 25th issue?) Muse are on the cover again, as well. Thanks. (Can't easily get NME here in the U.S.)<br />
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How can we organize a list of all the past NME articles reprinted in the 100-page Muse NME special issue?</div>EmilyWinehttp://musewiki.org/index.php?title=NME_(magazine)&diff=61156NME (magazine)2010-06-21T17:53:06Z<p>EmilyWine: </p>
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<div>New Musical Express.<br />
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=== Muse front covers of NME ===<br />
*[[NME 2009-09-15 – Men at work | 2009-09-15: Men at work]]<br />
*[[New album preview (20090722 NME article)|2009-07-22: New album preview]]<br />
*[[Take A Bow (20080813 NME article)|2008-08-13: Take A Bow]]<br />
*[[The Road to Wembley (20070616 NME article)|2007-06-16: The Road to Wembley]]<br />
*[[25th November 2006 (NME cover)|2006-11-25]]<br />
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=== Muse features in NME magazine===<br />
*[[NME 2009-09-15 – Men at work | 2009-09-15: Men at work]]<br />
*[[New album preview (20090722 NME article)|2009-07-22: New album preview]]<br />
*[[Muse new album - first listen (20090707 NME article)|2009-07-07: Muse new album - first listen]]<br />
*[[2009/03/07? I'm not sure if the wind blowing my dress up would benefit our career - Matt: @NME awards.]] <br />
*[[Take A Bow (20080813 NME article)|2008-08-13: Take A Bow]]<br />
*[[We only want to put out singles and Best Of's from now on (20080315 NME article)|2008-03-15: We only want to put out singles and Best Of's from now on]]<br />
*[[MUSE: Wembley mega-gigs set for dual live releases (20080206 NME feature)|2008-02-06: MUSE: Wembley mega-gigs set for dual live releases]]<br />
*[[Interview (20080119 NME article)|2008-01-19]]<br />
*[[Matt Bellamy's all time plug-in heroes (20080105 NME article)|2008-01-05: Matt Bellamy's all time plug-in heroes]]<br />
*[[The Road to Wembley (20070616 NME article)|2007-06-16: The Road to Wembley]]<br />
*[[My week (20070531 NME feature)|2007-05-23: My week]]<br />
*[[Dom's guide to not going to the bog for three days and bottling rubbish bands (20070523 NME article)|2007-05-23: Dom's guide to not going to the bog for three days and bottling rubbish bands]]<br />
*[[Muse to turn Wembley shows into festivals (20070523 NME feature)|2007-05-23: Muse to turn Wembley shows into festivals]]<br />
*[[Magic mushrooms and drowning fantasies (20070309 NME feature)|2007-03-09: Magic mushrooms and drowning fantasies - Muse's chief prophet takes NME inside the strange world of 2007's Best British Band]]<br />
*[[NME goes inside the band's camp for the lowdown on the gigs of the century (20070228 NME feature)|2007-02-28: NME goes inside the band's camp for the lowdown on the gigs of the century]]<br />
*[["Let's Burn Down the Houses of Parliament!" (20061118 NME article)|2006-11-18: "Let's Burn Down the Houses of Parliament!" First Bono and friends saved the world, now Muse are ready to fire up the revolution.]]<br />
*[[First Look at Muse's Bizarre New Stage Show (20061111 NME article)|2006-11-11: First Look at Muse's Bizarre New Stage Show]]<br />
*[[Supermassive! The gig of the millenium (20060830 NME article)|2006-08-30: Supermassive! The Gig of the Millenium]]<br />
*[[Massive UFOs, inflatable lilos and a huge love of Orbital... Yep, NME's been talking to Matt Bellamy (20060824 NME article)|2006-08-24: Massive UFOs, inflatable lilos and a huge love of Orbital... Yep, NME's been talking to Matt Bellamy]]<br />
*[[Set the controls for the heart of the charts (20060722 NME article)|2006-07-22: Set the controls for the heart of the charts]]<br />
*[[Tune says party, words say die (20060527 NME article)|2006-05-27: Tune says party, words say die!]]<br />
*[[New songs review (NME article)|2006-05-17: New songs review]]<br />
*[[May 2006 Interview (NME article)|2006-05-17: Interview]]<br />
*[[Rocks 50 Greatest Heroes (20060510 NME article)|2006-05-10: Rocks 50 Greatest Heroes]]<br />
*[[New Muse songs leak (20050525 NME feature)|2005-05-25: New Muse songs leak]]<br />
*[[Fans given 'Absolution' by Muse (20030809 NME article)|2003-08-09: Fans given 'Absolution' by Muse]]<br />
*[[The fan-ish inquisition:Muse (20010616 NME feature)|2001-06-16: The fan-ish inquisition:Muse]]<br />
*[[Osaka gig review (200010 NME article)|2000-10-??: Osaka gig review]]<br />
*[[Heroes and villains (20000729 NME article)|2000-07-29: Heroes & villains]]—<br />
*[[Barfly session gig review (200006 NME article)|2000-06-??: Barfly session gig review]]<br />
*[[Muse of the World (200006 NME article)|2000-06-10: Muse of the World]]<br />
*[[Muse at London Shepherd's Bush Empire (200005 NME article)|2000-05-09: Muse at London Shepherd's Bush Empire]]<br />
*[[Article (200005 NME article)|2000-05-??: Article]]<br />
*[[Muse at New York Brownies (200004 NME article)|2000-04-??: Muse at New York Brownies]]<br />
*[[On the Couch (20000202 NME feature)|2000-02-02: On the Couch]]<br />
*[[Interview with Matthew Bellamy (200001 NME article)|2000-01-??: Interview with Matthew Bellamy]]<br />
*[[The first great British guitar band of the 21st century (199910 NME article)|1999-10-??: The first great British guitar band of the 21st century]]<br />
*[[Muse's Millenium (199912 NME article)|1999-12-??: Muse's Millenium]]<br />
*[[Showbiz review (199910 NME feature)|1999-10-02: Showbiz review]]<br />
*[[Muse live at Exeter Cavern (1999 NME article)|1999-06-23: Muse live at Exeter Cavern]]<br />
*[[Fierce Ponder! (19990710 NME article)|1999-07-10: Fierce Ponder!]]<br />
*[[On the Road With Muse and Cay (1999-06 NME article)|1999-06-??: On the Road With Muse and Cay]]<br />
*[[Bristol University review (1999-03 NME article)|1999-03-??: Bristol University review]]<br />
*[[NME 1999-02-20 – NME on Muse |1999-02-20: NME on Muse]]<br />
<br />
== See also ==<br />
*[http://nme.com NME website]<br />
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{{Backto | media archive}}<br />
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[[Category:Magazines]]</div>EmilyWinehttp://musewiki.org/index.php?title=NME_(magazine)&diff=61155NME (magazine)2010-06-21T17:50:06Z<p>EmilyWine: </p>
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<div>New Musical Express.<br />
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=== Muse front covers of NME ===<br />
*[[NME 2009-09-15 – Men at work | 2009-09-15: Men at work]]<br />
*[[New album preview (20090722 NME article)|2009-07-22: New album preview]]<br />
*[[Take A Bow (20080813 NME article)|2008-08-13: Take A Bow]]<br />
*[[The Road to Wembley (20070616 NME article)|2007-06-16: The Road to Wembley]]<br />
*[[25th November 2006 (NME cover)|2006-11-25]]<br />
<br />
=== Muse features in NME magazine===<br />
*[[NME 2009-09-15 – Men at work | 2009-09-15: Men at work]]<br />
*[[New album preview (20090722 NME article)|2009-07-22: New album preview]]<br />
*[[Muse new album - first listen (20090707 NME article)|2009-07-07: Muse new album - first listen]]<br />
*[[2009/03/07? I'm not sure if the wind blowing my dress up would benefit our career - Matt: @NME awards.]] <br />
*[[Take A Bow (20080813 NME article)|2008-08-13: Take A Bow]]<br />
*[[We only want to put out singles and Best Of's from now on (20080315 NME article)|2008-03-15: We only want to put out singles and Best Of's from now on]]<br />
*[[MUSE: Wembley mega-gigs set for dual live releases (20080206 NME feature)|2008-02-06: MUSE: Wembley mega-gigs set for dual live releases]]<br />
*[[Interview (20080119 NME article)|2008-01-19]]<br />
*[[Matt Bellamy's all time plug-in heroes (20080105 NME article)|2008-01-05: Matt Bellamy's all time plug-in heroes]]<br />
*[[The Road to Wembley (20070616 NME article)|2007-06-16: The Road to Wembley]]<br />
*[[My week (20070531 NME feature)|2007-05-23: My week]]<br />
*[[Dom's guide to not going to the bog for three days and bottling rubbish bands (20070523 NME article)|2007-05-23: Dom's guide to not going to the bog for three days and bottling rubbish bands]]<br />
*[[Muse to turn Wembley shows into festivals (20070523 NME feature)|2007-05-23: Muse to turn Wembley shows into festivals]]<br />
*[[Magic mushrooms and drowning fantasies (20070309 NME feature)|2007-03-09: Magic mushrooms and drowning fantasies - Muse's chief prophet takes NME inside the strange world of 2007's Best British Band]]<br />
*[[NME goes inside the band's camp for the lowdown on the gigs of the century (20070228 NME feature)|2007-02-28: NME goes inside the band's camp for the lowdown on the gigs of the century]]<br />
*[["Let's Burn Down the Houses of Parliament!" (20061118 NME article)|2006-11-18: "Let's Burn Down the Houses of Parliament!" First Bono and friends saved the world, now Muse are ready to fire up the revolution.]]<br />
*[[First Look at Muse's Bizarre New Stage Show (20061111 NME article)|2006-11-11: First Look at Muse's Bizarre New Stage Show]]<br />
*[[Supermassive! The gig of the millenium (20060830 NME article)|2006-08-30: Supermassive! The Gig of the Millenium]]<br />
*[[Massive UFOs, inflatable lilos and a huge love of Orbital... Yep, NME's been talking to Matt Bellamy (20060824 NME article)|2006-08-24: Massive UFOs, inflatable lilos and a huge love of Orbital... Yep, NME's been talking to Matt Bellamy]]<br />
*[[Set the controls for the heart of the charts (20060722 NME article)|2006-07-22: Set the controls for the heart of the charts]]<br />
*[[Tune says party, words say die (20060527 NME article)|2006-05-27: Tune says party, words say die!]]<br />
*[[New songs review (NME article)|2006-05-17: New songs review]]<br />
*[[May 2006 Interview (NME article)|2006-05-17: Interview]]<br />
*[[Rocks 50 Greatest Heroes (20060510 NME article)|2006-05-10: Rocks 50 Greatest Heroes]]<br />
*[[New Muse songs leak (20050525 NME feature)|2005-05-25: New Muse songs leak]]<br />
*[[Fans given 'Absolution' by Muse (20030809 NME article)|2003-08-09: Fans given 'Absolution' by Muse]]<br />
*[[The fan-ish inquisition:Muse (20010616 NME feature)|2001-06-16: The fan-ish inquisition:Muse]]<br />
*[[Osaka gig review (200010 NME article)|2000-10-??: Osaka gig review]]<br />
*[[Heroes and villains (20000729 NME article)|2000-07-29: Heroes & villains]]—<br />
*[[Barfly session gig review (200006 NME article)|2000-06-??: Barfly session gig review]]<br />
*[[Muse of the World (200006 NME article)|2000-06-??: Muse of the World]]<br />
*[[Muse at London Shepherd's Bush Empire (200005 NME article)|2000-05-09: Muse at London Shepherd's Bush Empire]]<br />
*[[Article (200005 NME article)|2000-05-??: Article]]<br />
*[[Muse at New York Brownies (200004 NME article)|2000-04-??: Muse at New York Brownies]]<br />
*[[On the Couch (20000202 NME feature)|2000-02-02: On the Couch]]<br />
*[[Interview with Matthew Bellamy (200001 NME article)|2000-01-??: Interview with Matthew Bellamy]]<br />
*[[The first great British guitar band of the 21st century (199910 NME article)|1999-10-??: The first great British guitar band of the 21st century]]<br />
*[[Muse's Millenium (199912 NME article)|1999-12-??: Muse's Millenium]]<br />
*[[Showbiz review (199910 NME feature)|1999-10-02: Showbiz review]]<br />
*[[Muse live at Exeter Cavern (1999 NME article)|1999-06-23: Muse live at Exeter Cavern]]<br />
*[[Fierce Ponder! (19990710 NME article)|1999-07-10: Fierce Ponder!]]<br />
*[[On the Road With Muse and Cay (1999-06 NME article)|1999-06-??: On the Road With Muse and Cay]]<br />
*[[Bristol University review (1999-03 NME article)|1999-03-??: Bristol University review]]<br />
*[[NME 1999-02-20 – NME on Muse |1999-02-20: NME on Muse]]<br />
<br />
== See also ==<br />
*[http://nme.com NME website]<br />
<br />
{{Backto | media archive}}<br />
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[[Category:Magazines]]</div>EmilyWinehttp://musewiki.org/index.php?title=Kate_Hudson&diff=61154Kate Hudson2010-06-21T16:04:11Z<p>EmilyWine: </p>
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[[Matthew Bellamy]] appears to be embarrassing himself, as promised, in L.A. He is dating Kate Hudson, although, it is not known whether she will be another long time girlfriend or if we fans still have a chance at snatching him back any time soon.</div>EmilyWinehttp://musewiki.org/index.php?title=Kate_Hudson&diff=61153Kate Hudson2010-06-21T15:58:04Z<p>EmilyWine: </p>
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''An article on page 14 of issue 909 of Kerrang magazine, which went on sale 22nd June 2002. The article's editor was Paul Rees.''<br />
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==Hello dead sir, the name's Bellamy==<br />
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===Dark man Matt Bellamy, the man behind Muse, is Britain's most charismatic rockstar. He's also the only one who has contacted the dead...===<br />
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Matt Bellamy is in a room in West London, trying on sunglasses. We're in a large, modern photographers studio in East Acton, a faceless, horrible conurbation of the Capital's concrete sprawl, attempting to steal the look that will suit the sound of this week's cover band. Thin, small and angular, Bellamy arrives from his home in Brighton in his black Lotus sports car, wearing a dark shirt and a tie made for him by one of Muse's one million fans. Hair whipped upwards like egg peaks, he slips into a black leather, calf length trenchcoat that brings to mind the Gestapo. He strolls around the room, looking down at himself; Rage Against The Machine blares from the stereo at the end of the studio. It's all coming together. <br />
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The first thing that strikes you about Matt Bellamy is how quiet he is; giggly, almost childlike. In the world of the black and white quote - where voice and mannerism are lost to typing and print - this stands at odds with many of things he's said in the past (an entertaining spat with Stereophonics' Kelly Jones, for one), many of things he's done (his undisguised penchant for rock and roll largesse) and many of the sounds he's made. Especially these days. At a time where normalcy and intimate, occasionally exploitative, humanity are the creative focal points for even the biggest and most successful bands, Muse have turned their initially self-conscious and introspective group outward. They've taken steps and they've taken big ones. The Muse of today, with its scale, its colour and invention and its ambition, is an explosion of sound. It's an explosion of life. <br />
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Which is why, today, we have explosions ourselves. Literally. As a pyrotechnician climbs a stepladder to wire the fuses to the cylinders that hang from a horizontal pole above us (advising us to blow our noses throughout the day and to spit alot ''(sic)'') and counts down from three to synchronize with the lens shutter, a crack of angry sparks and a noseful of cordite shouts into the air. The image looks big, it looks bold, it looks wild, it looks brave. It fits Muse's sound like a contact lens. <br />
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And it fits Matt Bellamy in exactly the same way. If asked, the singer will admit that Muse's music is the sound of his true personality. It's not, he says, how Matt Bellamy is 'walking around a pub', but how he is inside of himself. The music of Muse, as compared to his personal identity is, he says, 'pretty damn close'. 'The way a person presents themselves in an everyday situation isn't necessarily what they're truly like. The only time you can see how a person really is, is when you witness those animal instinct moments, maybe when someone is starving, or maybe when they're having sex with their girlfriend - something that is a really private moment. In the same way, the music is something that's in me. The music is an expression of things that you can't express in everyday life'. Otherwise why express them? 'Exactly'. <br />
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At the age of 18, Bellamy left home and moved to Exeter, where he lived and worked with a friend as a painter and decorator. This, in keeping with much of the conversation, is an unlikely story told in the tones of a likeable story teller. It sounds like no big deal. But Bellamy's friend was a drug dealer, someone who started dealing to friends, turned this enterprise into something more serious and eventually landed himself in prison. The pair of them used to live above a pornographic bookshop. This was in a part of town where all the right stuff was available to all the wrong people. Bellamy's flat was, he says, 'like a scene from Trainspotting: white powders and mirrors and tin foil and needles everywhere'. People would be turning up and tying off at all hours of the night and day. <br />
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'The effect those days had on me,' Bellamy says, 'is that I don't dabble in those kinds of drugs. I don't touch the cocaine and the heroin. I've seen what it does to people.' That's strange. Because you do have a reputation for cliched largesse. 'Well, I think people like to believe in some sort of ideal rock 'n' roll life,' he says. 'They believe that when you do it that it feels somehow different to the way it actually does. And of course it doesn't. When Showbiz came out we were in a similar situation - there were people around us offering drugs and there were women and it was something that we didn't really engage with. It just didn't feel right to us; it just seemed something that was fake or made up. These things weren't in our face, but the opportunities were there.<br />
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But when we changed, at about the time of the second album, we suddenly wanted to have parties, and wanted to engage in those things. And when the word got around, especially on the European leg of the tour, people started hearing that we were having these parties and there'd be groups of people who would tour with us and follow us around just to come to these parties. And that's when it started to become the type of thing that people fantasise about.' For you? 'Yeah, at the time.' If not cocaine or heroin, then what? <br />
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Bellamy explains that his narcotic pursuit, in keeping with the spirit - no pun intended - of his Ouija board pursuit, is transcendental. And, with this as the aim, the drug of choice is hallucinogenic magic mushrooms. <br />
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Matt Bellamy is very much like the character in the Clash song, 'The Right Profile': 'Everybody says, what's he like? Everybody says, is he alright?' And the answer is, frustratingly, yes. Matt Bellamy is absolutely fine; spot on, in fact. In an hour long conversation in a quiet room of this sterile facility, Bellamy is so far removed from his public image as a charismatic, occasionally arrogant loudmouth that it's almost laughable. Inward looking without being selfish and shy without being useless, the vocalist, guitarist and songwriter talks easily, candidly and at some speed. It often takes him three goes to run through a sentence in the way that he would like (bless!), and the qualifications are many. And there is a good deal of perspective. Many of his emotional responses, he's keen for you to know, are probably no different from many other people's. But if the emotions are the same, the situations from which these emotions arise are far from routine. <br />
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'Matt really hasn't changed since the first day I met him,' says Dennis Smith, Muse's long time co-manager. Smith first heard about Bellamy when the frontman was just 13, and playing a piano composition at a school concert. The piece, Smith was told, was 'stunning'. The pair began their professional relationship when Dennis Smith was contacted by Bellamy years later. 'I would say that he is really old beyond his years. He's definitely a thinker, and quite a deep thinker at that. I can see why people sometimes level this charge of arrogance - the music does have a certain swagger to it - but Matt is not like that as a person at all. And when people say that he is, they've got it wrong.' <br />
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If you want to send a card, Matt Bellamy was born on June 9, 1978, in Cambridge. His mother, Marilyn, came from Belfast and met his father, George, a cab driver at the time, as soon as she got off the boat to England. The Bellamy's moved to Devon when Matt was five, and despite the fact that his father had a musical background - as a guitar player with 60's group The Tornado's, whose single 'Telstar' was the first US number one by a British band - their son didn't begin playing an instrument, the piano, until he was 10 years old. <br />
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But musical ability purred through him from a young age. As a small child, his first piano piece was not 'Chopsticks', but the work of Ray Charles - something the young Bellamy worked out by ear. His older brother Paul, would ask his sibling to decipher the melodies to songs by The Smiths and The Wedding Present, also on the piano. Bellamy didn't think too much about these requests at the time and doesn't seem to think too much about the precocity he displayed back then, even now. At age 13, George and Marilyn Bellamy divorced; his father moved to Exeter, and Matt stayed with his mother and his brother. It was at about this time that Bellamy began the learning curve of fundamental life interests that still fascinate and fuel him today. The first of these was the obvious process of weeding out, and the course which led him to music. The choice was, he says, between people who 'got pissed on cider and got into fights down by the sea', and those who did something else. In hiring an industrial estate youth club called Broad Meadow for 'three or four pounds an hour' and staging concerts there, Bellamy and his friends' young bands - which by this point had begun to include the future members of Muse - did something else. And Bellamy set in train the very thing that he is still doing today. <br />
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Behind the Bellamy's front door, life was bubbling in unusual - or at least unconventional - ways. At the age of 9, Matt had wandered downstairs late one evening. and discovered his mum, dad and brother focused around a Ouija board. Instead of shrieking at her son to get out of the room, Marilyn Bellamy instead chose to sit Matt down and explain what it was his family were doing. She also explained to him that this was nothing to be afraid of, no matter what anyone might think or say. Soon Matt Bellamy was rushing to school with stories from the Ouija board to tell to a young and wide-eyed audience. 'It was exciting to go to school and to tell 10-year-old kids all about it, as they found it all quite scary and I was quite impressed that I was doing something that was scary to other people but that wasn't to me,' he says. 'I did get quite into that.' <br />
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After the Bellamys' divorce, Marilyn, Paul and Matt were joined on the Ouija board committee by Paul's girlfriend, with Matt having the job of translating the letters as they were spelled out by the marker. These messages would come from dead family members and other close friends, with sentiments and sentences that were 'unspeakably real', intimate and personal details the authenticity of which was 'undoubted'. One correspondant predicted the Gulf War a full calendar year before the hostilities actually began. <br />
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By now, Matt Bellamy was on regular book runs down to the local library, in an attempt to read every text they could on this area of the occult. The intention, he says, was to 'push' their mother into becoming a medium, a talent Marilyn Bellamy was beginning to show a propensity toward. Being a medium involves being able to mouth the letters that are spelled out on the Ouija board as they arrive, and eventually being able to say the words before they've even been completed. With time, a medium will have no need for the Ouija board at all, and will be able to communicate without such a conduit. Excited and young, Matt Bellamy was well up for a bit of that. <br />
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'It wasn't that my mum was necessarily reluctant to take that step,' he says. 'It's just that she was reluctant to do it in front of me and my brother. I actually do think that she was very able to do it, it's just that she could see that me and my brother were becoming unnaturally keen. I mean I was only very young at the time. So she knocked it on the head.' Do you still practice? If practice is the right word? 'Well, my beliefs in the whole thing changed,' he says. 'I now believe that you're contacting something in your subconscious, which is quite different. Something that you might not have known was already there. That's probably more realistic than thinking you're contacting someone who's already dead. And I do practice that.' <br />
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Bellamy will cop to having taken fistfuls of mushrooms over the years, not as a weekly routine, but as a bi-annual binge. The drill is this: make sure you have no stress clouds on the horizon, clear a few days from your diary - at least three of which should be free after the event - and be willing to surrender yourself to whatever may come your way. The last time Matt Bellamy did this was in Vondelpark in Amsterdam, where he spent three days locked within the gates, scoffing 'bags and bags and bags' of magic mushrooms. <br />
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'I guess the point of doing this is to dig into your subconscious,' he says. 'To experience something that's not usually on offer. I'm not afraid of seeing something dark and seeing something horrible when I do this. In fact, I think the last time I did mushrooms I was actually looking for that to happen. But, I think it's a way of connecting with yourself in a way that you can't do in everyday situations.' <br />
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You say you have a girlfriend. Does that mean that the well reported torrent of one night stands have finished for the moment? For the first and only time in the interview, Matt Bellamy struggles. 'Erm...' He pauses, then lets out a burst of quick fire, manic laughter. 'That's a difficult one to answer. I'd rather not comment about that if you don't mind.' Okay. Were you as promiscuous as everyone thought you were when you didn't have a girlfriend? 'I'd say that...' You've brought this all on yourself you know. 'Yeah.' When I first met you at an aftershow in Manchester, you said then that you 'were going to bed: obviously not on my own'. 'Well I had a girlfriend for six years, from the age of about 15. And when we split up, just after we finished the second album, that whole period was quite, erm, experimental. It was quite a period in learning about my other self, which is what I think you wanted to know.' <br />
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And what did you learn? 'I probably learnt the quality of friendship with the bandmembers. That might sound like a strange thing to say given what we're talking about, but it's true. I became closer to the other two members of the band, which I think is the really important lesson that I learned.' <br />
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Few musicians divide opinion in quite the same way as Matt Bellamy. Those who like him, love him; those who dislike him, hate him. Part of this is down to the music; much of Muse's appeal is sonic and in concert Bellamy - down to his own discomfort - rarely speaks more than a single word to the thousands of people standing before him. So it comes down to the prism of the media to fill that void. And that void is filled with an image that says 'rock star'. An old school, stylised, enigmatic rock star. <br />
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This, though is just perception. Although the two are not necessarily mutually exclusive, in conversation Matt Bellamy is gentle and generous, which comes as something of a surprise. The real surprise, though, is his candour. Save for the enquiry regarding monogamy, he meets every question, no matter how direct, without losing a step or raising an objection. This is one of the more direct ones: Does it bother you that people think you're an arrogant little prick? Here, Matt Bellamy surges out a gust of laughter. <br />
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'Well, I understand how people can be misconstrued through the media, but I wouldn't like to think that I'm an arrogant little prick. But I have chosen that form...' You do seem to relish it a little bit. 'Yeah, that's possible. I've got to admit that being that way is not necessarily a good way to be, but I think in certain situations and with certain journalists that I've found myself veering toward that area.' Why? <br />
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'Well if anything, it's people trying to make you live up to what the music is,' he says. 'And some of our music - not all of it, but some of it - does have a sense of bravado, and I think that's something inside me. That's not to say that it's not inside other people, but I'm just using it in the music. I'm using that as a creative tool.' You seem to use a lot of things as creative tools. 'I suppose I do, yeah.' <br />
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Listening back to the tape of this conversation, it strikes me that this last statement isn't quite right. It's not so much that Matt Bellamy is using many 'things' as creative tools, but that Matt Bellamy is using life itself as a creative tool. And that this pursuit is not actually a means to an end, but is, in fact, an end in itself. Many musicians can be tiresome in their narcissism and childish in their self-obsession, but there's a world of difference between a greedy ego and a curious one. <br />
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Do you think you're a weirdo waiting to happen Matt? 'Erm. I don't know what that means.' Well, do you think that you could turn into a rock star eccentric? 'I don't know. Isn't that for you to decide?' Could be. Or maybe the answers are already there, in the music. At the beginning of our conversation, Matt Bellamy proposed that the dist- his real self - and the sound of Muse is 'pretty damn close'. So within this quiet, polite, self-effacing young man is something bold, something wild and something brave. Meet Matt Bellamy. Meet Muse.<br />
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