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::I don't when it merged again, but can we split this again? At least remove the Flash previews of the riffs, it's far far too much to have on one page. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] ([[User talk:Muserwiki|talk]]) 20:34, 7 June 2015 (BST)
::I don't when it merged again, but can we split this again? At least remove the Flash previews of the riffs, it's far far too much to have on one page. --[[User:Muserwiki|Muserwiki]] ([[User talk:Muserwiki|talk]]) 20:34, 7 June 2015 (BST)
:I would like to propose that we drop Flash entirely and switch to HTML5 audio player. I have a top-end PC rig and I can see it struggle with Chrome. Also no volume slider makes my ears bleed. I believe HTML5 native player should be less demanding and does not require additional plug-in. --[[User:Ncla|Ncla]] ([[User talk:Ncla|talk]]) 15:03, 6 November 2017 (GMT)
:I would like to propose that we drop Flash entirely and switch to HTML5 audio player. I have a top-end PC rig and I can see it struggle with Chrome. Also no volume slider makes my ears bleed. I believe HTML5 native player should be less demanding and does not require additional plug-in. --[[User:Ncla|Ncla]] ([[User talk:Ncla|talk]]) 15:03, 6 November 2017 (GMT)
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@crazybobbles: this page has no audio player after upgrade. --[[User:Ncla|Ncla]] ([[User talk:Ncla|talk]]) 18:34, 16 October 2018 (BST)

Latest revision as of 17:34, 16 October 2018

Help me name all the riffs and jams there are. Along with the obvious RATM ones, there are tons of Glastonbury after Sunburn thing, SS outro, etc. Anyway, lemme start off with:

  • Whole Lotta Love
  • Maggie's Farm
  • Microphone Fiend
  • Township Rebellion
  • SS outro (eg. Glastonbury 2004)
  • proto-Hyper Music riff (watch)
  • Jazz riff (after Muscle Museum on Hullabaloo, etc. (watch))
  • After Sunburn at Glastonbury 2004 (watch)
  • etc.

--Muserwiki 06:54, 29 March 2008 (GMT)

I just realized the proto-Hyper Music riff has elements of Jimmy Jam as well, and at the very end of the clip, it also has the Jazz riff that I listed right after it. Anyway. --Muserwiki 07:05, 29 March 2008 (GMT)
Listening to several bootlegs and the riff itself, I've come to conclusion that "proto-Hyper Music" is not really "Hyper Music". The actual riff for it was played as early as March 2000 (Melbourne ABC Studios 2000), which is way before Eurock 2000 (July 2000). I'm thinking it's just a blues jam that sounds similar. In any case, that blues jam on Eurock 2000 and other instances of the same jam have the ascending and descending jazz riff thing after Muscle Museum on Hullabaloo. --Muserwiki 05:57, 29 April 2008 (BST)


Would the riffs and jams that featured Bellamy on piano have a place here? In mind I had such examples as the pre-Butterflies and Hurricanes solo played circa-2001 and the numerous Rachmaninoff quotes. Perhaps a link to the relevant composer pages; eg. Music by Sergei Rachmaninov? --DJF 13:00, 22 May 2008 (BST)

Of course, I just don't know them enough to add them myself :D --Muserwiki 05:09, 25 May 2008 (BST)

Space Dementia outro

Should it be added here? --Susurr0 11:23, 9 July 2008 (BST)

as in the section of space dementia played after KoC in 2006? if so then no, there is already a section on that on Space Dementia (song), Muse songs that have been adapted into riffs dont need to be on here i dont think. unless there is a small section on them at the bottom with a list of songs that have been used like this.
all the different Stockholm outros do need to be added though (Glastonbury, Reading, Wembley) do any of these have specific names?. --Wilfio 12:40, 9 July 2008 (BST)
Well, I think it deserves a mention, apart from being on the song's article. As do some others such as Dead Star/Hyper Music riffs etc. --Susurr0 20:23, 9 July 2008 (BST)
yeah maybe a mention. what other songs have been used? Agitated and Ashamed? does Take a Bow count as it was used before it turned into a song rather than after?--Wilfio 21:13, 9 July 2008 (BST)
Stockholm Syndrome and Butterflies and Hurricanes (piano part) are the only ones I can think of. And yeah they count, as they are riffs anyway.
I also think we should list piano riffs and guitar riffs separately.--Susurr0 15:03, 10 July 2008 (BST)
To throw my 2p in here, I disagree with listing any of them. If we start listing the riffs of other songs that were played as outros, we're going to start wanting to list riffs from everything, and before you know it, there'll be a comprehensive list of every riff ever done in every song. I hardly think that's necessary, it's what the song pages are for. I think this page should be for the riffs that were played live only. -frozenjakalope 15:10, 10 July 2008 (BST)
Well, there aren't so many. Plus the fact that they're already on each song's page doesn't mean they shouldn't be listed here as well.--Susurr0 16:50, 10 July 2008 (BST)
The Groove and Execution Commentary have also been used :) --Wilfio 17:38, 10 July 2008 (BST)
I'm also saying no to putting Muse songs here after they have been recorded - Like SD outro, DS and HM. Similarly, if things like Drum and Bass become full songs they should be removed from this list with earlier incarnations discussed in the (song) article. Otherwise information becomes split or duplicated over multiple articles. This pages should be reserved for music that is only ever a live riff or jam, just as the song page should be reserved only for full songs. ۞ 18:24, 10 July 2008 (BST)

Not sure about this but....

I saw this on YouTube ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eF_MQqveFc ) and wondered if this should be on this list? I listened to the other riffs you have here and couldn't place it anywhere, or in any previous song. Is it an outro? Anyway, I thought I'd leave it with you incase it had slipped through the net. If you're already aware of it then my apologies; at the very least it's an amusing little clip!


List riff

  • 1.- Adagio In G Minor (Tomaso Giovanni Albinoni)
  • 2.- Adagio Sostenuto (Sergei Rachmaninov)
  • 3.- Asturias (Isaac Albeniz)
  • 4.- Before Unintended
  • 5.- Bombtrack (Rage Against the Machine)
  • 6.- Bulls On Parade (Rage Against The Machine)
  • 7.- Burning Bridges Riff [Aka Irish Riff(Status Quo)]
  • 8.- Close Encounters
  • 9.- Cool Rare Riff Vuilstamen (Outro Cave)
  • 10.- Drum And Bass (Osaka Riff)
  • 11.- Entrance of the Gladiators [Louis-Phillipe Laurendeau Riff (Guitar version)]
  • 12.- Entrance of the Gladiators [Louis-Phillipe Laurendeau Riff (Piano version)]
  • 13.- Études Simples #6 (Leo Brouwer)
  • 14.- Hangar 18 (Megadeth)
  • 15.- Head Up (Deftones)
  • 16.- Heartbreaker (Led Zeppelin)
  • 17.- How I Could Just Kill a Man (Rage Against The Machine)
  • 18.- I Want to Break Free (Queen)
  • 19.- Jimmy Jam (Improv)
  • 20.- Kaoss Jam
  • 21.- Killing in the Name (Rage Against The Machine)
  • 22.- Laura Palmer's Theme (Twin Peaks)
  • 23.- Low Tune
  • 24.- Maggie's Farm (Bob Dylan and Rage Against the Machine)
  • 25.- Man With a Harmonica (Ennio Morricone)
  • 26.- Microphone Fiend (Rakim and Rage Against the Machine)
  • 27.- Misirlou Twist (Kronos Quartet)
  • 28.- People of the Sun (Rage Against the Machine)
  • 29.- Prelude in B flat (Sergei Rachmaninov)
  • 30.- Prelude in C Sharp Minor (Sergei Rachmaninov)
  • 31.- Prelude in G minor (Sergei Rachmaninov)
  • 32.- Pre-Sunburn
  • 33.- Revolver (Rage Against the Machine)
  • 34.- Riff Glastonbury
  • 35.- Blue Valentine (Tom Waits)
  • 36.- Township Rebellion (Rage Against the Machine)
  • 37.- Voodoo Child Slight Return (Jimi Hendrix)
  • 38.- War Within a Breath (Rage Against the Machine)
  • 39.- Whole Lotta Love (Led Zeppelin)
  • 40.- Bedroom Acoustics Intro
  • 41.- Before Uno (Era Showbiz)
  • 42.- Execution Commentary Riff
  • 43.- Fury (Riff 2000)
  • 44.- Hyper Chondriac Music Intro
  • 45.- Hyper Chondriac Music Outro
  • 46.- Map Of Your Head Riff
  • 47.- Nishe [Riff Portsmouth(17 May 1999)]
  • 48.- Stockholm Syndrome Riff
  • 49.- Who Knows Who Riff
  • 50.- Agitated Riff
  • 51.- Ashamed Riff
  • 52.- Assassin Grand Omega Bosses Edit Riff
  • 53.- Bliss Intro
  • 54.- Butterflies And Hurricanes Intro (2002)
  • 55.- Dead Star Riff
  • 56.- Early Drum And Bass (2000)
  • 57.- Early Hyper Music Riff
  • 58.- Early Who Knows Who Riff (2004)
  • 59.- Hyper Music Riff
  • 60.- Interlude 99
  • 61.- Intro Cave
  • 62.- Outro Micro Cuts
  • 63.- Mini Riff
  • 64.- Dracula Mountain (Lightning Bolt)
  • 65.- Falling Away With You (Instrumental)
  • 66.- Piano Thing Interlude
  • 67.- Riff In Fuji
  • 68.- Scratch Jam
  • 69.- Outro Space Dementia
  • 70.- Stockholm Syndrome Outro
  • 71.- Take A Bow Interlude (2003)
  • 72.- The groove (Instrumental)
  • 73.- The Star-Spangled Banner
  • 74.- Yes Please Riff (2008)


Man with a Harmonica

Anyone got any proof that Dom plays the harmonica on the Resistance tour? If dom plays the harmonica who plays the drums? --       Wilf  Talk 12:21, 26 October 2009 (GMT)

Yeah I want proof too - I saw them at both O2 arena dates on 12th and 13th of November, and also when they played on the 4th September at The Den, and Chris played the Harmonica every time. I specifically remember him throwing it down on the ground after playing it on the 13th (when I had seating tickets and had a clear view) --Ashers67 23:03, 17 November 2009 (GMT)

Back in Black

Anybody know if they really play this riff on September 5 in Teignmouth, because until now I can not find any audio of this riff.

Adagio Sostenuto

The description sais its original but in the box it sais the original composer is Sergei Rachmaninov. I dont know much about the classical influences so i cant clear it up myself. help?

Adagio Sostenuto is the second movement of Rachmaninov's second piano concerto. It's not part of Neutron Star Collision at all, see Music by Sergei Rachmaninov. --Tene 18:36, 9 July 2010 (BST)

Split

This page regularly kills my browser (latest Firefox version), at least when I view recent changes on it (can't be bothered to try it otherwise). I'm not sure why, Firefox doesn't usually have those problems with large pages. Still, can this page please be split? Ideally without affecting those riff templates in set lists? Time Q 16:54, 31 August 2011 (BST)

Crazybobbles mentioned that to me a while back, I guessed that it was due to so much Flash. Splitting would require updating riff templates to point to wherever the split pieces go. I suggest making Riffs_and_jams/$Riff_name, and including each $Riff_name on pages for alphabet ranges, like we do with gig tables for each year. Don't think I can summon the effort at the moment though. --Tene 17:12, 31 August 2011 (BST)
Is it better now? --Tene 20:23, 1 September 2011 (BST)
I don't when it merged again, but can we split this again? At least remove the Flash previews of the riffs, it's far far too much to have on one page. --Muserwiki (talk) 20:34, 7 June 2015 (BST)
I would like to propose that we drop Flash entirely and switch to HTML5 audio player. I have a top-end PC rig and I can see it struggle with Chrome. Also no volume slider makes my ears bleed. I believe HTML5 native player should be less demanding and does not require additional plug-in. --Ncla (talk) 15:03, 6 November 2017 (GMT)

Audio player

@crazybobbles: this page has no audio player after upgrade. --Ncla (talk) 18:34, 16 October 2018 (BST)